Goonhub
06-12-2021, 02:09 PM
This problem really bothers me, in truth, as someone who primarily plays silicons.
I have, in the past, been ordered to harm mutantraces, because they aren't human. I've even had people argue with me endlessly about it, when I refuse to do so.
And by the information provided, the people who make those orders are technically correct. They are explicitly labelled as nonhuman by the wiki definition. I shouldn't be able to refuse law 2 requests any more than I could refuse to kill a bumblespider. And they could make ahelps for me violating my laws based on that. Just as I would be violating the grief rules by doing it. I don't like that catch 22.
And I really cannot for the life of me jive the Goon spirit we play by, of making things fun for everyone, with the idea of large swaths of the population being freely ordered to be murdered. I cannot, for the life of me, get why that wiki article isn't altered, given that.
Large segments of the population being nonhuman seems to be favored by the devs or admin team, given how many times this has been brought up and summarily dismissed. But it flies in the face of essentially every other ruling they make or uphold, which mostly seem to be admirably in line with making things fun and approachable.
If it's being kept around for legacy reasons, I don't really think that's a good enough reason. Tradition is a lame reason to put people in the line of admin action no matter what they do, or to have their rounds ended by spite and loopholes. Even if it doesn't happen often, and is just a fear we have to all face, why leave that door open for a five minute change that doesn't require coding?
I have, in the past, been ordered to harm mutantraces, because they aren't human. I've even had people argue with me endlessly about it, when I refuse to do so.
And by the information provided, the people who make those orders are technically correct. They are explicitly labelled as nonhuman by the wiki definition. I shouldn't be able to refuse law 2 requests any more than I could refuse to kill a bumblespider. And they could make ahelps for me violating my laws based on that. Just as I would be violating the grief rules by doing it. I don't like that catch 22.
And I really cannot for the life of me jive the Goon spirit we play by, of making things fun for everyone, with the idea of large swaths of the population being freely ordered to be murdered. I cannot, for the life of me, get why that wiki article isn't altered, given that.
Large segments of the population being nonhuman seems to be favored by the devs or admin team, given how many times this has been brought up and summarily dismissed. But it flies in the face of essentially every other ruling they make or uphold, which mostly seem to be admirably in line with making things fun and approachable.
If it's being kept around for legacy reasons, I don't really think that's a good enough reason. Tradition is a lame reason to put people in the line of admin action no matter what they do, or to have their rounds ended by spite and loopholes. Even if it doesn't happen often, and is just a fear we have to all face, why leave that door open for a five minute change that doesn't require coding?