Goonhub
Quoting this from my message on discord.
"but yeah, in general my opinion is why have two related scenarios have different outcomes. if mutated plants are still the original plant, why aren't mutated humans still human. Are they aliens from another planet like some other servers, i'm just a little confused"
I think we should just include them in the definition of human, any round start mutrace should be human by default. It's kind of awkward being told that "you're not human so I can kill you", or stuff like that by a borg and i've been killed several times by laws cause of this "loophole/wiggleroom" clause. But yeah, like the quote said... If seething tomatos are still considered as tomatos, and money trees are still trees, why are humans that have mutated not considered human.
Does that mean a human that grows horns or has some physical aspect changing mutations isn't human as well? I'm not as up in arms as others about this, but I do wish we had some more uniformity with the wiki/rules for this. Right now it's kind of different opinions of devs, humanwiki saying it's "legal by technicality", and some players having their own moral compass for this. I've been told you can be ahelped if you do this, but it's not really stated anywhere and doesn't really make sense if it's literally in the wiki that they aren't human? If a new player reads the human/nothuman page and decides that it's okay to kill lizards etc cause its within the wiki technicalities, is it really fair to punish them for something that isn't explained very well on either end? Just my two cents.
Sorry if i don't get my point across very well, i'm a bit of a rambler and lose the point of what i'm writing about a lot of the time.
TL;DR Just make mutraces human, why overcomplicate things and leave openings for more oversights/misunderstandings down the road that we aren't thinking about, or have problems pop up in the future from additions/changes that are added. If mutraces are just made human and the wiki/rules edited to show that, won't that solve most of our issues?
"but yeah, in general my opinion is why have two related scenarios have different outcomes. if mutated plants are still the original plant, why aren't mutated humans still human. Are they aliens from another planet like some other servers, i'm just a little confused"
I think we should just include them in the definition of human, any round start mutrace should be human by default. It's kind of awkward being told that "you're not human so I can kill you", or stuff like that by a borg and i've been killed several times by laws cause of this "loophole/wiggleroom" clause. But yeah, like the quote said... If seething tomatos are still considered as tomatos, and money trees are still trees, why are humans that have mutated not considered human.
Does that mean a human that grows horns or has some physical aspect changing mutations isn't human as well? I'm not as up in arms as others about this, but I do wish we had some more uniformity with the wiki/rules for this. Right now it's kind of different opinions of devs, humanwiki saying it's "legal by technicality", and some players having their own moral compass for this. I've been told you can be ahelped if you do this, but it's not really stated anywhere and doesn't really make sense if it's literally in the wiki that they aren't human? If a new player reads the human/nothuman page and decides that it's okay to kill lizards etc cause its within the wiki technicalities, is it really fair to punish them for something that isn't explained very well on either end? Just my two cents.
Sorry if i don't get my point across very well, i'm a bit of a rambler and lose the point of what i'm writing about a lot of the time.
TL;DR Just make mutraces human, why overcomplicate things and leave openings for more oversights/misunderstandings down the road that we aren't thinking about, or have problems pop up in the future from additions/changes that are added. If mutraces are just made human and the wiki/rules edited to show that, won't that solve most of our issues?