Goonhub
05-19-2021, 09:58 AM
Thanks for the indepth reaction. The shield nerf kinda scared me a little, but it's clear to me now that this was far from done in a vacuum.
To start with the note you ended on, i can totally get behind this. Since borg seem to be heavily worked on right now, i think seeing what the new meta will actually be like, is a good idea, like you said. While there are still a few things i'm slightly worried about (a notable example being tasers functioning as stun phasers), for now i will just wait and see.
I believe this change has a great chance of changing the meta in a possitive way. I'm allready considering what my tanky borg is gonna be like.
Looking forward to it!
I believe these changes will indeed make stronger heads more viable. However, this still leaves me with the question why borg brains get destroyed when the head does in the first place. Given that borg can literally be made to drop everything and attack people, even if they dont want to, this just doesn't make sense to me. Changing it so that the brain just pops out instead, would make your chances of getting repaired way more comparable to the changes of a human getting cloned, especially since like i said before, targeting the head is just good practice. And if some borg went out of their way to be a shitter, you can always still eat their brain.
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the upcoming changes. Thanks for all the work you put in. I'm not a coder by any stretch of the imagination, so i wont be able to help in that regard, but if it's ever helpful to have someone help with some testing or something, i'd be more than happy to help out.
Quote:Essentially: I'd like to let the shield upgrade nerf stand as-is for now, and we can look into rebalancing once it's been felt out a bit more and people have worked out how to work around it.
To start with the note you ended on, i can totally get behind this. Since borg seem to be heavily worked on right now, i think seeing what the new meta will actually be like, is a good idea, like you said. While there are still a few things i'm slightly worried about (a notable example being tasers functioning as stun phasers), for now i will just wait and see.
Quote:Re: different types of borg more viable, see: https://github.com/goonstation/goonstation/pull/4779
Quote:I would hope that the meta might change to actually use the stronger heads (especially with cyborg treads reducing the effective weight of heavier heads).
I believe this change has a great chance of changing the meta in a possitive way. I'm allready considering what my tanky borg is gonna be like.
Quote:There are more changes to come to make the heavier parts (esp. arms) more desirable.
Looking forward to it!
Quote:Quote: Wrote:Currently it seems to be the case that if a borg's head gets destroyed, this also destroys the brain. Since it's good practice to target the head, this often means that if a borg does die, they have no way to get back into the round. Seeing how borg are meant to switch allegiances by design, this has always seemed odd to me. Changing this could make it so that dying as a borg is less of an issue you would want to avoid at all cost, thereby making any changes that do make them more vulnerable less drastic.
I would hope that the meta might change to actually use the stronger heads (especially with cyborg treads reducing the effective weight of heavier heads).
I believe these changes will indeed make stronger heads more viable. However, this still leaves me with the question why borg brains get destroyed when the head does in the first place. Given that borg can literally be made to drop everything and attack people, even if they dont want to, this just doesn't make sense to me. Changing it so that the brain just pops out instead, would make your chances of getting repaired way more comparable to the changes of a human getting cloned, especially since like i said before, targeting the head is just good practice. And if some borg went out of their way to be a shitter, you can always still eat their brain.
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the upcoming changes. Thanks for all the work you put in. I'm not a coder by any stretch of the imagination, so i wont be able to help in that regard, but if it's ever helpful to have someone help with some testing or something, i'd be more than happy to help out.