Goonhub
05-10-2021, 03:52 PM
Efrem wanted you to acknowledge that sometimes you don't need to be the hero, and that you can let things play out. The issue isn't the actions you took that round, but rather your refusal to admit that there were alternatives, and to say "okay I get that". Can you really not imagine a dayban being justified, at all? I'm not saying you can't criticize how he talked to you, but I really can't buy that there was no justification at all and that you were totally right and he was totally wrong.
And when I say exhausting, I mean uniquely exhausting. Efrem took the time to try and explain things to you ingame. Then he tried to explain things to you over Discord. Then he tried to explain things to you on your ban appeal. Then you made this complaint thread. Over a day ban, you expect him to spend at least four or five hours of his twenty four hours catering to you. That's a lot of time, energy, and effort.
Again, yeah, some of Efrem's responses were rude. "Efrem was rude to me and I wish he would've been nicer" would make sense as an admin complaint. But what you're doing right now isn't that. You're doing a lot more and accusing him of a lot more. Portraying yourself as "respectful" and using nice words doesn't make you or your behavior nice or any more respectful.
(For instance, it doesn't really make sense thank me for my response if you're going to disregard it a sentence later, and call it silly.)
Or take this -
You're basically saying that I'm in opposition to "being one of the nicest, most accepting and well-behaved SS13 communities" by calling you out on accusing Efrem of being "toxic" and "abusive". Do you think that makes sense?
My takeaway for you - coating everything you say in a veneer of politeness while directly accusing someone of being "toxic", "abusive", and "bullying", and while private messaging many different members of the community specifically to garner sympathy and support for this event (why? so that they'll post on your thread?), is pretty dang manipulative, and you should stop.
And when I say exhausting, I mean uniquely exhausting. Efrem took the time to try and explain things to you ingame. Then he tried to explain things to you over Discord. Then he tried to explain things to you on your ban appeal. Then you made this complaint thread. Over a day ban, you expect him to spend at least four or five hours of his twenty four hours catering to you. That's a lot of time, energy, and effort.
Again, yeah, some of Efrem's responses were rude. "Efrem was rude to me and I wish he would've been nicer" would make sense as an admin complaint. But what you're doing right now isn't that. You're doing a lot more and accusing him of a lot more. Portraying yourself as "respectful" and using nice words doesn't make you or your behavior nice or any more respectful.
(For instance, it doesn't really make sense thank me for my response if you're going to disregard it a sentence later, and call it silly.)
Or take this -
(05-09-2021, 11:46 PM)Slazenger Wrote: We pride ourselves in being one of the nicest, most accepting and well-behaved SS13 communities. It's unfortunate to see the stance you're attempting to portray, Flourish.
You're basically saying that I'm in opposition to "being one of the nicest, most accepting and well-behaved SS13 communities" by calling you out on accusing Efrem of being "toxic" and "abusive". Do you think that makes sense?
My takeaway for you - coating everything you say in a veneer of politeness while directly accusing someone of being "toxic", "abusive", and "bullying", and while private messaging many different members of the community specifically to garner sympathy and support for this event (why? so that they'll post on your thread?), is pretty dang manipulative, and you should stop.