Goonhub
12-13-2020, 11:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2020, 06:41 PM by nefarious6th. Edited 4 times in total.
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I don't think I've ever seen this problem on main or RP and I absolutely dread needing to seek higher permissions in the CoC for trying to override non-human requests that might be harmful and cause problems because I can barely ever get any of the heads to respond to me in normal and non-urgent circumstances.
Late edit: I think reading the past threads on this too, there is a confusion, it seems, between things not being stated and things not being allowed. Just because it is not stated that lizards, cows, and roaches can be part of the chain of command, it doesn't mean that lizards, cows and roaches aren't allowed to be part of the chain of command. In a similar manner, just because you get a law saying someone is non-human, that doesn't necessarily have to equate to instruction to purge them because you're only committed to protecting humans.
Here's the thing: I think it's a little of what Mordent initially pointed out in that this maybe makes a problem up where we don't currently have one. But there's also nothing currently that restricts you from playing in the way you would if you were to change the laws to be this. This change would then serve to tighten every other AI player into a paradigm that you in particular like to play within, which I think is an unfair thing, given that you can play exactly like you'd like to currently, and people can play their own ways too, and those two (or more?) ways can coexist without people having much trouble from round-to-round with those variations.
This comes down to interpolation as an AI, which is subjective (but also that we've notably not really had issues with both RP-side and on main!); and, frankly, I'd like to think that I'm perhaps perceptive enough in my own gameplay as an AI to not need this kind of additional restriction on how I'm allowed to play. Especially when I think this is a change meant for a certain gameplay style of AI that I absolutely do not fit the mold of and don't care to.
Late edit: I think reading the past threads on this too, there is a confusion, it seems, between things not being stated and things not being allowed. Just because it is not stated that lizards, cows, and roaches can be part of the chain of command, it doesn't mean that lizards, cows and roaches aren't allowed to be part of the chain of command. In a similar manner, just because you get a law saying someone is non-human, that doesn't necessarily have to equate to instruction to purge them because you're only committed to protecting humans.
Here's the thing: I think it's a little of what Mordent initially pointed out in that this maybe makes a problem up where we don't currently have one. But there's also nothing currently that restricts you from playing in the way you would if you were to change the laws to be this. This change would then serve to tighten every other AI player into a paradigm that you in particular like to play within, which I think is an unfair thing, given that you can play exactly like you'd like to currently, and people can play their own ways too, and those two (or more?) ways can coexist without people having much trouble from round-to-round with those variations.
This comes down to interpolation as an AI, which is subjective (but also that we've notably not really had issues with both RP-side and on main!); and, frankly, I'd like to think that I'm perhaps perceptive enough in my own gameplay as an AI to not need this kind of additional restriction on how I'm allowed to play. Especially when I think this is a change meant for a certain gameplay style of AI that I absolutely do not fit the mold of and don't care to.