Let's talk about The Cool Zone

[vampirate]

personally i'm glad that the cool zone is somewhere you feel uncomfortable sharing these kinds of nobody-fucking-asked-you takes, and the quality of the channel has increased dramatically in your absence. 

This is a perfect example of what you may or may not decry as "bashing non-leftist opinions" but what it actually is is just downright disrespectful and garbage discourse. You saunter into a discussion people (who have a stake in the matter) discussing what upsets them and what would make it right, and you swung in, cheeks flapping, with some condescending thats-just-how-the-world-works-kiddo bullshit. All this enlightened non-partisan "it was inevitable" garbage has a single purpose: it takes up space and eats up time that people could have spent much better without you near it. 

Nobody is asking for this, nobody is welcoming this. If you want your own safe place to reminesce about colonialism and the inherent might of the european warlord, kindly cram it. You decided to flout the purpose of the tough times channel to play armchair revisionist and arrogantly "explain" some textbook anglo curriculum "history" to people who were trying to discuss the morality and righteousness of the fact. You got burned for shitting up the conversation, not for being outside the "acceptable opinions" or whatever, you just sucked ass to talk to. 

You could've walked in with some Merriam-Webster definition of Borders or Land, or just gone off on a monologue about oranges, it doesn't matter. 

The channel isn't broken, this is pure operator error. 

If you remove the comments I replied to the context is gone. A person was trying to shut down a conversation by saying the land is ours. Basically hahah gotcha we can't make laws on immigration because the land was taken by conquest? I stand by that being a fallible point that makes no sense. Most lands owned by anyone now were taken by conquest, and they warred with each other. it was the ugly part of human nature throughout history and it's not a hot take to say we can't just declare ourselves unable to make laws cause the land was taken by war centuries ago. I stand by that. I can understand why some people find it offensive. I think the history of treatment by America towards native Americans is hideous, but I stand by the point I was making that yeah... the land is "ours" even if it was taken by war. I don't find that a hot take. It's simply reality.

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But... lemme say where I was wrong. I didn't understand the exact nature of the place, and I didn't take enough effort to learn. Some of the stuff I said hurt people, and that's on me and for that I apologize. I misread the room literally. I misread the purpose. I went into place to designed just lay out some complaints and where people wanted to be allowed to be bummed a bit, and I debated. That had to suck for the people who just wanted to vent. So for that part, I am sorry.