Goonhub
08-19-2020, 12:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2020, 11:18 AM by Studenterhue. Edited 2 times in total.)
Ah yes, thank very much for the clarification Chayot.
Honestly, I presumed everyone was talking about all Sec roles, Security Officer, Detective, and Vice Officer (and HoS too, but it's already white-listed, so it's already well-vetted. Dunno about Lawyer) this whole time.
I wouldn't be opposed to timelocking them too, for they have a lot of the same problems I discussed: stressful and demanding learning environment that isn't good for newbies and loose grasp of rules and lack of experience & knowledge that, especially when combined with access to weapons and other means to taking people out of a round, can lead to major damage and lots of unfun. Detective has one slot though, and Vice Officer has only two and is restricted to one day, so there's less students to wrangle, though I'm sure most people would still prefer to teach a newbie Det or Vice Officer Sec rather than controls.
I think an argument could be made for Detective and Vice Officer having lower number of rounds required than Sec Officer, though maybe not 7. Vice Officers are expected to enforce (virtually nonexistent) laws related to drugs and food, so you need just knowledge of drugs and foods (in addition to usual knowledge of fair punishments), and Detectives need forensics skills, part of which is simple diligence and accounting, so not knowing much about the game is not as much as a liability because you don't need to know much in the first place. (Though you could easily say a similar argument for having the number of required rounds be same as Secoff's).
(I would like Vice Officer be reworked into a sort of intro-Sec or trainee-Sec too. But that's another thread.)
Honestly, I presumed everyone was talking about all Sec roles, Security Officer, Detective, and Vice Officer (and HoS too, but it's already white-listed, so it's already well-vetted. Dunno about Lawyer) this whole time.
I wouldn't be opposed to timelocking them too, for they have a lot of the same problems I discussed: stressful and demanding learning environment that isn't good for newbies and loose grasp of rules and lack of experience & knowledge that, especially when combined with access to weapons and other means to taking people out of a round, can lead to major damage and lots of unfun. Detective has one slot though, and Vice Officer has only two and is restricted to one day, so there's less students to wrangle, though I'm sure most people would still prefer to teach a newbie Det or Vice Officer Sec rather than controls.
I think an argument could be made for Detective and Vice Officer having lower number of rounds required than Sec Officer, though maybe not 7. Vice Officers are expected to enforce (virtually nonexistent) laws related to drugs and food, so you need just knowledge of drugs and foods (in addition to usual knowledge of fair punishments), and Detectives need forensics skills, part of which is simple diligence and accounting, so not knowing much about the game is not as much as a liability because you don't need to know much in the first place. (Though you could easily say a similar argument for having the number of required rounds be same as Secoff's).
(I would like Vice Officer be reworked into a sort of intro-Sec or trainee-Sec too. But that's another thread.)