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General Sec Token Chat - Replacement and Improvement Brainstorming Here!
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(08-11-2020, 02:22 PM)Chayot Wrote: Phyvo, it's not about stopping rampages it's about the use of SEC equipment in said rampages.
Yes, they can steal it off a SEC officer.
Yes, they can order it and Packet/ID it open.

It's about making it harder, less accessible. If you were playing prior to tokens, more specifically in SEC department you may understand not only how frequent but how nerve-racking it is to have to make sure the weapons in SEC are secure.
(Armory excluded, that's easier to deal with for many reasons.)
Most rampages committed were with SEC gear, to the point where it was a problem--that's probably why the token system was introduced.

There are plenty of ways to "Rise up" against an antag.
Many items have recently been introduced and buffed across ALL departments to make standing up to Antags feasible.  

I find the tracker to be VERY useful. Do I use it every round? No. But it certainly works out very well for when it is needed.
Please do consider it more and take note of the changes and how they affect the game if you haven't noticed yet.

I've been playing for over a year. Every random item buff that I've seen so far is pretty meaningless unless you're in a messy impromptu brawl where neither party has powerful stun weapons. Every rampage I've seen since those changes still involves an antag with powerful stun effects at their disposal, many of which were taken from sec. I have yet to see a prepared rampager get put down by the everyday items that were buffed. Sure, a buzzsaw might end up dealing the killing blow, but it's not what caused the rampager to fall in the first place, because it's stuns that are king. Plates are not terribly useful unless you can catch the rampager in melee with their weapon in hand, so it's chiefly useful against csaber/samurai nerds.

I already noted that joining late as sec feels less dangerous now because you are almost guaranteed a ranged weapon. There being an empty rack or not hardly even matters when there's a rampager loose, but being denied a taser matters. But as regular crew I feel more naked now against a serious threat, not less. Again, stuns are king.
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RE: General Sec Token Chat - Replacement and Improvement Brainstorming Here! - by phyvo - 08-12-2020, 07:12 PM

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