Goonhub
06-06-2020, 10:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-09-2020, 04:31 PM by ZeWaka. Edited 1 time in total.)
Admin: Sageacrin
Server: Main server I think, LLJK one on the hub
Synopsis: So I died fairly early in the round, and was just lingering there as a ghost watching the round when I got hit with this message(not exact):
Would you like to become a midround antagonist?
I voted yes. A couple of minutes later, I spawned in as a bird on the arrivals shuttle along with some other birds. I figured this was the midround antagonist. I havent played on goon a lot and so having birds be antagonists didnt seem very out there. I started attacking other humans as a space bird. It was actually pretty fun, for some reason i was killing people pretty fast with my attacks which I later learned might be a bug? After I killed a couple people, Sageacrin adminhelped me with this:
Admin PM from SageAcrin
So why are you assaulting the living?
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and then immediately after with this
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Using a bug?
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I was confused and wrote:
Reply PM to-SageAcrin: i thought im antag?
Sage ignored my reply and said this
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Did you get that message?
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And then another rapid message before i was able to reply
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Did something about "small bird" scream "antagonist"
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I havent played on goonstation much, but ive been murdered by plenty of weird things on this server already so Im not sure why getting murdered by a space bird is that out there. This rhetorical question only served to further confuse me.
I replied to him "yes I got the message" at this point I was pretty confused what was going on and what he was even asking me.
He then sent me this:
Admin PM from SageAcrin
You just lied to my face. What do you think I think of that, as an admin?
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I was really confused now. I'm being accused of being a liar even though I wasnt exactly sure what he was asking me. I put two and two together at this point and realized that i apparently wasnt supposed to be an antag so i explained why i thought i was:
Reply PM to-SageAcrin: it said "do you want to be an antagonist mid round" or somethng i said yes and then i became a bird i figured that was it
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Ooooh. Weird timing.
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Admin PM from SageAcrin
But at the same time; how do you know how to use that bug?
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Im not even sure what bug sage is referring to, and still dont as it was never explained exactly what i did wrong that i almost got wrongly banned for. Again, I've barely played the server, I wouldnt even know where to start with bug exploits even if I tried. I didnt even know space birds were a thing until that round.
Reply PM to-SageAcrin: what bug?
At this point i was sure i was about to get banned so i quickly replied
HELP: You: ive barely played this server dude i dont even know whats going on half the time
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Hmmm. Alright, sorry. I was under the impression a bug was moderate level when, on conferring with a coder, it is in fact SEVERE.
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Admin PM from SageAcrin
You're clear, thanks for putting up with me. Your reward is a normal person respawn. Not an antag one though!
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So sage apparently talks to a coder and discovers a bug. Im assuming the bug has something to do with the incredible power of the bird, or maybe birds arent supposed to attack humans. Either way, it wasnt explained to me clearly what I was accused of doing wrong.
This brings me to the main reason I posted this complaint.
Admin PM from SageAcrin
You just lied to my face. What do you think I think of that, as an admin?
< Click to Reply >
What a response. Before I was even able to properly explain myself, I was already being accused of lying and given a thinly veiled threat. This kind of behavior is not what I would really expect from an admin. The entire conversation I had with sage, or rather interrogation, reeked of condescension and malice. I understand he thought I was a non-antag going around murdering people, but the rhetorical questions and bad attitude didn't seem very becoming of an admin. If youre going to ban someone, just get the facts, if it was a mistake or bug like this then drop it, and if they were acting in bad faith ban them, but dont power trip and threaten people and lord your "power" as an admin over them while doing it. I should also point out if I was griefing or acting in bad faith, then why did I immediately stop killing people when ahelped? If I was a random griffer wouldnt i just keep going until I was banned?
Just drop the condescending tone and rhetorical questions. Coming from a player who was playing the game in good faith, its off-putting and rude, and also confuses the player when you do that.
Server: Main server I think, LLJK one on the hub
Synopsis: So I died fairly early in the round, and was just lingering there as a ghost watching the round when I got hit with this message(not exact):
Would you like to become a midround antagonist?
I voted yes. A couple of minutes later, I spawned in as a bird on the arrivals shuttle along with some other birds. I figured this was the midround antagonist. I havent played on goon a lot and so having birds be antagonists didnt seem very out there. I started attacking other humans as a space bird. It was actually pretty fun, for some reason i was killing people pretty fast with my attacks which I later learned might be a bug? After I killed a couple people, Sageacrin adminhelped me with this:
Admin PM from SageAcrin
So why are you assaulting the living?
< Click to Reply >
and then immediately after with this
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Using a bug?
< Click to Reply >
I was confused and wrote:
Reply PM to-SageAcrin: i thought im antag?
Sage ignored my reply and said this
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Did you get that message?
< Click to Reply >
And then another rapid message before i was able to reply
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Did something about "small bird" scream "antagonist"
< Click to Reply >
I havent played on goonstation much, but ive been murdered by plenty of weird things on this server already so Im not sure why getting murdered by a space bird is that out there. This rhetorical question only served to further confuse me.
I replied to him "yes I got the message" at this point I was pretty confused what was going on and what he was even asking me.
He then sent me this:
Admin PM from SageAcrin
You just lied to my face. What do you think I think of that, as an admin?
< Click to Reply >
I was really confused now. I'm being accused of being a liar even though I wasnt exactly sure what he was asking me. I put two and two together at this point and realized that i apparently wasnt supposed to be an antag so i explained why i thought i was:
Reply PM to-SageAcrin: it said "do you want to be an antagonist mid round" or somethng i said yes and then i became a bird i figured that was it
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Ooooh. Weird timing.
< Click to Reply >
Admin PM from SageAcrin
But at the same time; how do you know how to use that bug?
< Click to Reply >
Im not even sure what bug sage is referring to, and still dont as it was never explained exactly what i did wrong that i almost got wrongly banned for. Again, I've barely played the server, I wouldnt even know where to start with bug exploits even if I tried. I didnt even know space birds were a thing until that round.
Reply PM to-SageAcrin: what bug?
At this point i was sure i was about to get banned so i quickly replied
HELP: You: ive barely played this server dude i dont even know whats going on half the time
Admin PM from SageAcrin
Hmmm. Alright, sorry. I was under the impression a bug was moderate level when, on conferring with a coder, it is in fact SEVERE.
< Click to Reply >
Admin PM from SageAcrin
You're clear, thanks for putting up with me. Your reward is a normal person respawn. Not an antag one though!
< Click to Reply >
So sage apparently talks to a coder and discovers a bug. Im assuming the bug has something to do with the incredible power of the bird, or maybe birds arent supposed to attack humans. Either way, it wasnt explained to me clearly what I was accused of doing wrong.
This brings me to the main reason I posted this complaint.
Admin PM from SageAcrin
You just lied to my face. What do you think I think of that, as an admin?
< Click to Reply >
What a response. Before I was even able to properly explain myself, I was already being accused of lying and given a thinly veiled threat. This kind of behavior is not what I would really expect from an admin. The entire conversation I had with sage, or rather interrogation, reeked of condescension and malice. I understand he thought I was a non-antag going around murdering people, but the rhetorical questions and bad attitude didn't seem very becoming of an admin. If youre going to ban someone, just get the facts, if it was a mistake or bug like this then drop it, and if they were acting in bad faith ban them, but dont power trip and threaten people and lord your "power" as an admin over them while doing it. I should also point out if I was griefing or acting in bad faith, then why did I immediately stop killing people when ahelped? If I was a random griffer wouldnt i just keep going until I was banned?
Just drop the condescending tone and rhetorical questions. Coming from a player who was playing the game in good faith, its off-putting and rude, and also confuses the player when you do that.