Goonhub
05-01-2020, 08:47 AM
I take both your both your points, although I would argue that Fire V Ling and Chaplain V Vampire are soft counters due to the vast array of defenses one could dish out and I needn't bother listing them all as it would be exhaustive.
Silver bullets V Wolfman is a good point and actually a bit of a bad mechanic. I don't think it's very fair, although I haven't seen it used very often. Most of the time, wolves are just mobbed by crew and borgs. I'd much prefer silver bullets to reduce the time one stays in wolf form, rather than outright melting them.
I just don't like mechanics that are "Haha, here's my ace in the hole!", it just isn't fun and doesn't encourage interesting combat. Remember: The taser back ages ago used to be far stronger and fights almost always ended very quickly because of it. This is the same philosophy.
Same with Wraith too, but tangentially. I personally don't think there's enough ways to fight the Wraith, there's only salt. That's... kinda silly.
If anything is to be taken out of this thread, it's that the melting hats needs to be far more obvious to the wizard, and melting the cthulu staff needs to go, so that the only proper way of removing it is via crusher.
Though, I think wizard spells as a whole probably need to be respecced.
There's plenty of great spells, but plenty of ones that are hot garbage too (looking at you, ice burst and bull's charge) and wiz could use some more defensive stuff.
Right now, wizards kind of pigeonhole themselves to a specific playstyle - Summoner with golems, Curser with Polymorph/Cluwne and Pyro with fireball. And then there's Rathen Secret (which is fucking OP as fuck, holy hell) and empower/cthulu wizards, which are just massive assholes.
I don't really see much variation outside these specific playstyles. I don't think we need to start again with the wizard, just shift things around a little.
I'll make a seperate post about it when I gather my thoughts.
Silver bullets V Wolfman is a good point and actually a bit of a bad mechanic. I don't think it's very fair, although I haven't seen it used very often. Most of the time, wolves are just mobbed by crew and borgs. I'd much prefer silver bullets to reduce the time one stays in wolf form, rather than outright melting them.
I just don't like mechanics that are "Haha, here's my ace in the hole!", it just isn't fun and doesn't encourage interesting combat. Remember: The taser back ages ago used to be far stronger and fights almost always ended very quickly because of it. This is the same philosophy.
Same with Wraith too, but tangentially. I personally don't think there's enough ways to fight the Wraith, there's only salt. That's... kinda silly.
If anything is to be taken out of this thread, it's that the melting hats needs to be far more obvious to the wizard, and melting the cthulu staff needs to go, so that the only proper way of removing it is via crusher.
Though, I think wizard spells as a whole probably need to be respecced.
There's plenty of great spells, but plenty of ones that are hot garbage too (looking at you, ice burst and bull's charge) and wiz could use some more defensive stuff.
Right now, wizards kind of pigeonhole themselves to a specific playstyle - Summoner with golems, Curser with Polymorph/Cluwne and Pyro with fireball. And then there's Rathen Secret (which is fucking OP as fuck, holy hell) and empower/cthulu wizards, which are just massive assholes.
I don't really see much variation outside these specific playstyles. I don't think we need to start again with the wizard, just shift things around a little.
I'll make a seperate post about it when I gather my thoughts.