04-18-2020, 07:34 AM
(04-16-2020, 04:06 PM)Sundance Wrote:(04-16-2020, 03:43 PM)UrsulaMejor Wrote: I think that your example, sundance, is something I think should be brought to admin attention. I don't think there is such a thing as a civil discussion that has one party othering or generalizing people over their identity like that.
Civility is for discussing budgets and taxes and economics, not the validity of someone's gender/sexual/ethnic/racial identity. I wouldn't personally start a big fight over it, but deff get the admin team involved asap if that kind of thing comes up
I agree with the overall sentiment, but not with your example.
I'll steadfast with my example, if only to make a point.
That insinuation, while quite hurtful, still warrants civility. This is not turning the other cheek. This is you saying firmly, to the other individual, that you feel what that person said was incorrect and hurtful. That's not weakness, that's resolve.
And yes, in these situations an admin could be invoked. This is not mutually exclusive. You could be civil to someone and call an admin to look into something in the same instance.
Immediately launching into emotive tirade is exhausting for everyone and drags conversations into places that need not be dragged.
I think we need some kind of card system for this, because this seems like how it plays out most of the time.
When person A says a microaggresion that gets person B upset enough to insult person A on a personal level, it's really easy to point to person B's conduct as negative, but person A's conduct also needs to be addressed.
I propose a means of flagging posts as a kind of signal to the person making them that they should stop and think carefully about the ideas they're expressing and how they're harmful to other players. Like reacting with a yellow square or red square, depending on perceived severity.
That way no one has to expend the mental energy writing up a response and
someone arguing in good faith can see in real time the effect their words are having on players