Goonhub
10-18-2019, 07:09 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2019, 09:12 PM by SageAcrin. Edited 1 time in total.)
I happened to be crashed out taking a nap during this(ahhh, chronic fatigue). So I missed the whole lovely smoke going down. But fortunately there's logs.
First, I look it over and I find that you did indeed smoke not just 300 units of strychnine but do so in a dark lower maintenance. With a wizard that's kinda like throwing a bear trap in the way of everyone due to the way smoke lingers-a fact every chemist knows and stays way out of. You're a good enough chemist to know that. As I'll prove very fast in a second. You can't just say you're "not psychic", wizards yell out spells, people scramble looking for 'em.
Secondly, I'm like "well do the notes back this up like said". And holy *shit* you QGP'd a shambler and gibbed three people on a *shuttle* a month ago? I don't need another note, this stuff tends to run borderline and only get caught/ahelped part of the time. For every one note there's three incidents. I don't penalize more for that, I'm just aware of it. And this also shows you are a *very* good chemist.
Then I look at the after-round where you... basically blow off all the people you killed with strychnine, and then brew a massive amount of deathchems and, when no antagonist shows up/you start getting APMed, smoke them on yourself at the Owlery around the time of the ban. A massive insane hellbrew, as good as any incendiary I've ever made-and I'm proud of those-but also including some good poisons, and fucking hootagen and initro. Why this is passing through your hands as a non-antagonist casually is baffling and kinda shows a "well I just brew 'em waiting for something to blast 'em with 'cause it's my fun".
Like, that's not "a mix I've been meaning to try", any poisoner will tell you that's overkill for overkill's sake designed to overwhelm any healing measures-and will, and really doesn't need to be tested in a mesh for you to know that because alone without a healer you just drop dead five seconds in, you'd need to be a changeling or have healing support to properly "test" that. If this is the kind of stuff you're brewing, you're really just making TTVs if not worse to chase antags with-and that's no good.
Yeah that shows kinda bad faith intent to just keep killing crew members with massive overkill blasts to "save the station"-and with chems you're enjoying too(strychnine, hootagen; not necessarily the best choices at all. But I can see the fun factor for sure. As an antag.). Put it all together... I'd have 3.5'd you too and I like you.
On the rest, all I can say is that I feel like there's a view that things used to be different on these kinds of bans. Honestly that's only a matter of manpower. People never could run around blasting the station with hellchem bombs that wrecked a bunch of innocents if they were caught, it was just a matter of how much they played and how consistent they did it, if they were ahelped directly during the round or only caught after round, and if an admin was actively on to go "huh what was that who did that".
It's mostly changed in the sense of a better timezone coverage net that is stopping people that should have been caught doing this stuff before. vOv
Edit: Detail with the QGP: Apparently it wasn't on the shuttle; It was in mining's maint subcorridors. It's sort of a mixed bag if this is better or worse... a shambler there is something easy to flee from until it downs from lack of points and the details I've gotten are that it was in fact already down on life as a shambler even, so it's not even a situation where the chaos of the shuttle justifies it. On the other hand I will say one could argue a ling is always one of the most dangerous foes. Call it equally questionable in my books.
First, I look it over and I find that you did indeed smoke not just 300 units of strychnine but do so in a dark lower maintenance. With a wizard that's kinda like throwing a bear trap in the way of everyone due to the way smoke lingers-a fact every chemist knows and stays way out of. You're a good enough chemist to know that. As I'll prove very fast in a second. You can't just say you're "not psychic", wizards yell out spells, people scramble looking for 'em.
Secondly, I'm like "well do the notes back this up like said". And holy *shit* you QGP'd a shambler and gibbed three people on a *shuttle* a month ago? I don't need another note, this stuff tends to run borderline and only get caught/ahelped part of the time. For every one note there's three incidents. I don't penalize more for that, I'm just aware of it. And this also shows you are a *very* good chemist.
Then I look at the after-round where you... basically blow off all the people you killed with strychnine, and then brew a massive amount of deathchems and, when no antagonist shows up/you start getting APMed, smoke them on yourself at the Owlery around the time of the ban. A massive insane hellbrew, as good as any incendiary I've ever made-and I'm proud of those-but also including some good poisons, and fucking hootagen and initro. Why this is passing through your hands as a non-antagonist casually is baffling and kinda shows a "well I just brew 'em waiting for something to blast 'em with 'cause it's my fun".
Like, that's not "a mix I've been meaning to try", any poisoner will tell you that's overkill for overkill's sake designed to overwhelm any healing measures-and will, and really doesn't need to be tested in a mesh for you to know that because alone without a healer you just drop dead five seconds in, you'd need to be a changeling or have healing support to properly "test" that. If this is the kind of stuff you're brewing, you're really just making TTVs if not worse to chase antags with-and that's no good.
Yeah that shows kinda bad faith intent to just keep killing crew members with massive overkill blasts to "save the station"-and with chems you're enjoying too(strychnine, hootagen; not necessarily the best choices at all. But I can see the fun factor for sure. As an antag.). Put it all together... I'd have 3.5'd you too and I like you.
On the rest, all I can say is that I feel like there's a view that things used to be different on these kinds of bans. Honestly that's only a matter of manpower. People never could run around blasting the station with hellchem bombs that wrecked a bunch of innocents if they were caught, it was just a matter of how much they played and how consistent they did it, if they were ahelped directly during the round or only caught after round, and if an admin was actively on to go "huh what was that who did that".
It's mostly changed in the sense of a better timezone coverage net that is stopping people that should have been caught doing this stuff before. vOv
Edit: Detail with the QGP: Apparently it wasn't on the shuttle; It was in mining's maint subcorridors. It's sort of a mixed bag if this is better or worse... a shambler there is something easy to flee from until it downs from lack of points and the details I've gotten are that it was in fact already down on life as a shambler even, so it's not even a situation where the chaos of the shuttle justifies it. On the other hand I will say one could argue a ling is always one of the most dangerous foes. Call it equally questionable in my books.