03-28-2019, 03:25 PM
(03-28-2019, 03:15 PM)Frank_Stein Wrote:(03-28-2019, 10:22 AM)Wisecrack34 Wrote:(03-28-2019, 10:21 AM)OMJ Wrote:My feelings exactly(03-28-2019, 09:43 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: I do play Sec a lot, but I'm not completely sold on blocking the role. I think it might be helpful to have a diffculty indicator on the job role, with jobs like Sec being marked as for experienced players, and more new player friendly roles being marked for beginners. Sorta like the wiki, only in game.
Based on the behaviors I've seen I'm safely going to assume new players aren't "bad" at sec because it's hard. They're "bad" at sec because they're looking to ruin somebody's day.
They're going to ignore whatever soft recommendations we put forth because their principal interest is to power trip over actually playing SS13. A hard block forces them to play SS13 and feel out the server and realize that they shouldn't be assholes.
And if we lose some players who only wanted to be assholes? Good
But see, if they're picking roles to be an asshole, they're going to be an asshole regardless. Sec might have an easy set of tools for assholery, but so do a lot of other roles. They could just as easily be a scientist or engineer and release plasma in the halls, the Barman and unload the shotgun into someone, or a botanist and chainsaw. Lots of jobs have tools like this by design. Sec is just the least imaginative and laziest role to pick for that reason.
I'm more concerned about the people that are planning on sticking around longer, who aren't familiar with the controls or culture of the server being turned off right away by picking a role they're unfamiliar with
These people feel like they're protected by being security for them being shit. Giving people a taser and a baton is a lot more major over them figuring shit out as an engineer.
Everything what you just mentioned isn't happening. What is happening is security being poorly consistently. People know that if they release plasma, if they unload the barman's shotgun, etc etc that they'll be bwoinked. It's more of a gray area with security.