Goonhub
10-29-2017, 05:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-30-2017, 01:03 PM by Ed Venture. Edited 12 times in total.)
I did not think I really needed to honestly. But again the fluid change was never the main point of these posts. Which was mainly on how I was treated badly for just wanting to know what some coders wanted out of this change before I went and gave them mountains of feedback. Knowing where they wanted to take it would make it easier to give them feedback while keeping what they tell me in mind. Hufflaw focused on the one time I was negative in that Two hour discussion and tried to paint it like that's how I was the whole discussion and in this thread tried to paint it like I am like that all the time. Again cause it will most likely be brought up again. That was the only time I took a negative tone cause my questions were ignored twice and the first two times I did put them in a respectful manner.
On my attitude I feel like I improved quite well on that front since last year and barely had any issues, if I had any issues at all with the coders on changes in the last few months. What comes to mind was the pull nerf and quite frankly with how long it took for our feedback to be taken into consideration and how we were told by the coder who made it that we wasted our time after waiting almost five months for any change at all. My poor attitude towards that change was well deserve and not even the worst example of how some reacted to the coder once he said that. You say it's how I am on everything but give no examples or context like always.
People always remember the bad things you've done but never remember when you try to change or make something right. I've had good talks with coders before and still do to this day, I tell coders thank you for changes I like or for just replying to a .tell on irc. I feel at this point the times I've been positive with coders outweigh the negative times. Coders constantly say they feel unappreciated so I at least try to thank them when they do something that makes me happy. But no one remembers or brings up those times. So many times since May of this year have I looked at the changelog and sent a .tell to the coder who posted it saying "thank you for the change/fix and for your hard work".
So if anything is to be learned from this it's that don't make smug comments at people without having all the context. Frankly implications and assumptions are dumb. If I don't openly say something on anything then I don't mean what you think I mean. Stop reading words that are not there. Pretty frustrating when I say I like something and then a admin shows up telling everyone I hate a thing and that I should leave goonstation cause I don't like anything.
EDIT:Went and added the word "Fluid Change" to sentences in my posts to avoid any confusion.
On my attitude I feel like I improved quite well on that front since last year and barely had any issues, if I had any issues at all with the coders on changes in the last few months. What comes to mind was the pull nerf and quite frankly with how long it took for our feedback to be taken into consideration and how we were told by the coder who made it that we wasted our time after waiting almost five months for any change at all. My poor attitude towards that change was well deserve and not even the worst example of how some reacted to the coder once he said that. You say it's how I am on everything but give no examples or context like always.
People always remember the bad things you've done but never remember when you try to change or make something right. I've had good talks with coders before and still do to this day, I tell coders thank you for changes I like or for just replying to a .tell on irc. I feel at this point the times I've been positive with coders outweigh the negative times. Coders constantly say they feel unappreciated so I at least try to thank them when they do something that makes me happy. But no one remembers or brings up those times. So many times since May of this year have I looked at the changelog and sent a .tell to the coder who posted it saying "thank you for the change/fix and for your hard work".
So if anything is to be learned from this it's that don't make smug comments at people without having all the context. Frankly implications and assumptions are dumb. If I don't openly say something on anything then I don't mean what you think I mean. Stop reading words that are not there. Pretty frustrating when I say I like something and then a admin shows up telling everyone I hate a thing and that I should leave goonstation cause I don't like anything.
EDIT:Went and added the word "Fluid Change" to sentences in my posts to avoid any confusion.