Security.txt by Reignofevil

[reignofevil]

For anyone who doesn't want to read the wall of text:

a thread in which a guy who thinks it's ok to beat people with fire extinguishers as security to 'non lethally take them down' offers tips about how to be a 'good' security guard

That is certainly a way to describe it! I don't feel like it is moving the conversation in the most productive avenue however.

Honestly this is just a thread about a 2D spaceman game on a forum dedicated to asking permission to get to continue pretending to drink in a fake bar after you spaced the captain. I am not sitting in game, as we speak, bashing people in the brain, there is no need to treat this thread with hostility and derision. Criticism? Argument? All things I feel this thread can be for.

To take the conversation back to security, one idea in my head now is that perhaps a culture where the primary means of arresting someone is running at him full speed silently, taking away his control of the game for like two minutes via stun, and then handcuffing him to take him to the brig, is not in of itself a good or particularly fun system.

To me, having the extinguisher represents knowing that when I am using it, it has to be a completely justified action in case some omnipotent guy decides to look into the attack log. A guy with a stun baton can stun almost anyone for anything. That said I am fully open to why this might not be so! It is just a conversation I felt like attempting to start and would like people to contribute!

My final thought is regarding my semiserious proposal to just outfit the whole security force with blunt weapons. I put forward that if security could only harm belligerents, but would still be faced with a ban for failure to provide medical treatment to the person they "accidentally" let die (it is not THAT hard not to murder people... people!), then there might actually be a sense of restraint before you just start fucking bashing people. Nobody who has ever arrested me has bothered to show restraint when tasing me because "it is nonlethal" and can't actually harm me (the implicit motive being: I will not be punished for this fuck you), versus what I attempt to do which not only leaves me using a weapon that I am pretty immune to, and also since I can't just taze everyone to get my way (forced gas mask removal for syndicate rounds, taking batons off assistants who aren't USING them, generally an easy solution to any breaking and entering) I usually actually have something to DO when a crime happens beyond "big hero arrest-em-all" and "Die to the changeling, good try!"