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Why security can do not good
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(05-31-2017, 12:21 PM)Frank_Stein Wrote:
(05-31-2017, 12:00 PM)Superlagg Wrote:
(05-31-2017, 08:44 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: ^That really describes the problem.

People want or need things they can't get to, so they have to do things that are illegal to get them

Which is the point. The station is supposed to be somewhat frustrating with distrust and paranoia sewn about.

I think the intention was people would need to break into areas to loot them but be discrete about it, with Sec being the challenge for them.

But most people don't seem to want the inconvenience of not having what they want, being careful when acquiring it, and having to hide it if they get it.

I've heard some stories from other servers where simply possessing a thing that you shouldn't counts as a crime. Things we take for granted as part of your average robustkit, like magboots or a hypospray. Vulpankin help you if you're carrying around an RCD and arent the CE.

It also helps that those things are pretty darn hard to get in general, and that Security can be pretty brutal to misbehavers. As an assistant, I can usually get everything I need by smashing a few windows and rubbing Harner up against some doors. Heck, there's a chemdispenser in the debris field just waiting for someone to blast a million units of godmode juice into an artbeaker and chug it the whole round.

I've never been stopped, even by department heads watching me mine my way into their place of business Dwarf Fortress style. I just *wave and *salute and they must assume I work there.

What I'm getting at is that we're too easy on fun. If you just let me fun around with your stuff, neither of us are gonna have much fun. Don't thank me for smashing your shit, piledrive my ass out into the hallway!

Yeah, it's a matter of Security being a job that has existed prior to a culture shift towards a more permissive and cooperative station

I know I don't bother with arresting anyone for something like that unless I've been specifically asked to from someone from the raided department. Even then, I usually just ask them to leave or to return any stolen items so I can avoid having to make an arrest.

I think we really got to nail down exactly what security is supposed to be doing on their down time, and what kind of environment we want and would consider fun.

Any job I have, I try to make sure people not part of the job don't have an easy time of staying in (Other people that share my job, my boss, security, the HoP and the Captain are people I don't chase out.  People part of the same department (same job color) will get slack, but I'll try to keep them on their own job and start pushin people out if they're not takin the hint.).  It helps create conflict, and conflict is what makes the game fun after all.  Just yesterday, people kept breaking into mechanics for gloves, so I just grabbed them all and hid them on myself while telling security what they were doing.

If I'm security, I'll try to keep people out of the job areas they're not supposed to, escalating from warnings to tickets to stuns to brigging as it becomes a bigger problem.  People steal things, they lose them, and I try to get those items back to their places. Of course, when shit hits the fans, you stop caring if people are breaking into places cause it's significantly more likely they're just trying to find a way to defend themselves.  

I personally think Security should be doing things about keeping people in the areas they're supposed to be.  Wandering around public areas is one thing, but people breaking into Medical and swiping surgery tools never do it for benign reasons.
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Why security can do not good - by Technature - 05-26-2017, 08:05 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Sundance - 05-26-2017, 09:21 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Ed Venture - 05-26-2017, 12:37 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Frank_Stein - 05-26-2017, 12:44 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Berrik - 05-26-2017, 05:24 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Technature - 05-26-2017, 05:44 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Crazyabe - 05-26-2017, 08:40 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Lady Birb - 05-26-2017, 08:53 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Mageziya - 05-26-2017, 09:18 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Berrik - 05-26-2017, 09:44 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by misto - 05-26-2017, 11:11 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Roomba - 05-26-2017, 11:17 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Technature - 05-27-2017, 02:32 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Berrik - 05-27-2017, 01:31 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Ed Venture - 05-27-2017, 03:15 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Dr Zoidcrab - 05-27-2017, 06:16 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by misto - 05-27-2017, 06:37 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Technature - 05-27-2017, 05:17 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Nnystyxx - 05-27-2017, 07:25 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Frank_Stein - 05-27-2017, 07:27 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by misto - 05-27-2017, 07:31 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Ed Venture - 05-27-2017, 12:20 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Lady Birb - 05-27-2017, 12:58 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Ed Venture - 05-27-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Berrik - 05-27-2017, 02:44 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by misto - 05-27-2017, 02:50 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Frank_Stein - 05-27-2017, 05:14 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Vitatroll - 05-27-2017, 05:35 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Huff H Law - 05-27-2017, 06:13 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by YoukCat - 05-28-2017, 10:52 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by atamusvaleo - 05-31-2017, 06:42 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Frank_Stein - 05-31-2017, 08:44 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Superlagg - 05-31-2017, 12:00 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Frank_Stein - 05-31-2017, 12:21 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Technature - 05-31-2017, 02:43 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Vitatroll - 05-31-2017, 11:31 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Sundance - 05-31-2017, 11:39 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Lady Birb - 05-31-2017, 11:57 AM
RE: Why security can do not good - by Noah Buttes - 05-31-2017, 12:09 PM
RE: Why security can do not good - by atamusvaleo - 06-01-2017, 06:05 AM

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