What jobs need an update?

[ferriswheel1]

That said there's no "perfect" solution where everyone would be satisfied but threads like this is a lesson in madness.

In other words: Fuck this thread.

Then what ARE we supposed to do? Isn't at least trying to make some plan better than nothing?

Threads like this and at the ideas and suggestion forum basically follow this format:

- OP makes a suggestion
- First 2-3 posts think it's a good idea
- Somewhere around the 4th post, person A makes an addendum to the concept.
- Person B agrees with addendum and adds his own
- Person C heavily disagrees with Person A's addendum
- Misto comments with a valid but vague suggestion
- Good idea misto
- OP desperately tries to keep his thread on track
- Nobody listens and goes completely off tangent.
- A coder or contributor takes one peak into the abyss that is the thread and hits the back button on his browser.

This thread is even worse for this as it's just a fucking mess of ideas with no cohesiveness and the only thing it's showing is how we lack any community mindfulness of each other, instead this ego tooting of our own horns with our brilliant ideas that would take months to code.

Like take my robotics thread. I thought that because it wasn't really adding anything fundamentally new that it would be a hitch to code. Yet because I have little to no idea of how code works (and the code storm) it took significantly longer than expected. And that's not even saying I had expectations in the first place, the whole thread was originally a platform to rant.

So let's stop thinking that all these wonderful and grandiose ideas are going to come into fruition just because you've thought of them, because I guarantee someone will disagree with you.

Now I know this is going to come across as pure hypocrisy after everything said but I think that if we're going to spearhead something actually of worth then the first port of call would be to make a poll. You can't disagree or skew the stats, however it's imperative that the vote you put towards it is towards a feasible concept. From there, make a new thread, perhaps a new poll on what you want to see in the job. 

Then we actually have a horizon to move towards, because currently threads like this just looks like a ship going around in circles.

And I'm sorry if I come across as a bitter old crone. That's because I am one. 

I'd disagree with this, if only slightly. Threads such as this do serve an important point that they indicate what areas might need development, and how they could be improved. People voicing complaints about an aspect of a role is the first step to getting that area looked at.

I do agree that they're often rambling and difficult to follow, but that's probably because coming up with a cohesive ideas thread is tricky when people are so keen to suggest their own additions to an idea, with a thread ending up a jumbled mess as a result.