MindHack Cloning Module is a BIT obvious and a BIT misleading for the cost

[Silent Majority]

So, a recent round I watched a newbee geneticist pull out a mindhack cloner, and attach it to a cloning machine in front of a wide and diverse audience, including securi-me.

they proceeded to just go 'well that's that round over' then flush themself down a trash chute and kill themself.

I'm not about to propose a change up to the mindhack cloner on the function form (I am notably not a fan but I need to be able to do the work rather then just mention it), however:

Could the description be altered to mention just how obvious and obnoxious it is? Give a very clear and concise warning, since it seems to be a bit misleading.

I'd also to propose: Drop the TC cost by 2. Yes, its extremely powerful. Yes, it can transform a round. It's also one of the weird sort of traitor items that require an immense amount of work, dedicated in world infrastructure, and some factors that are flat beyond your control.

Secondary suggestion:

The delux mindhack cloning kit could come with a Delux Gene Mod chip that could hold 3 genes. Let them start their own super soldier program

Tertiary suggestion:
Mindhack cloners cloning someone should not transmit that someone is cloned to the medical channel.

Rather, to Nukie Faction PDA's:

New recruit %name has been gestated and ejected at %locationname, go properly induct them!

[klushy225]

I 100% agree with this. It really is sad to see newer antags, or hell, even experienced ones just plop that down in the cloner, and have half of their TC points wasted in the best case scenario, and their round ruined in the worst.

[Kotlol]

I think decreasing the cost ain't a bad idea, but 2 is maybe too low.

That said... either you put it on the cloner, putting a big LOUD "Traitors got this now"
And removing it is easy and thus lost... if you do it stealthly.

But...what if you can make your own cloner? Well... now you gotta get it from Cargo, leaving a LEAD.
Then hide it away, while it's loud and fill it with biomass.
Then wait till someone dies, scan em in and clone em.

ALL IN SECRET.

So yea I am fine with a cost decrease or atleast a DESCRIPTION update.

[JOELED]

agree, I've seen this absolutely blow newbees rounds so many times and it's always awkward lol

[Silent Majority]

Ah i met "by 2" not "to 2" with possibly a goodie bag version with more whistles

[JORJ949]

Secondary suggestion:

The delux mindhack cloning kit could come with a Delux Gene Mod chip that could hold 3 genes. Let them start their own super soldier program

What if the deluxe version's module couldnt be removed and spat people out fully-dressed, kinda "ready for combat" but not really because its just a turtleneck and boots

Also PRd the third suggestion here: https://github.com/goonstation/goonstation/pull/21200

[Cal]

Crazy suggestion but I think deluxe should just replace the regular mind hack for it's price

Edit: also maybe it should make them have red glowing eyes for the purpose of making it clear someone is amassing an army

[Silent Majority]

I like that cal.

[JOELED]

Crazy suggestion but I think deluxe should just replace the regular mind hack for it's price

honestly yeah I agree, of every single time I have ever seen someone actually use the mindhack cloner it's been the deluxe version from a surplus.  Every time I've seen someone intentionally buy it it's been a new player which goes as was described in the OP lol

Making it the deluxe version could cause it to become too frequent/effective, but I feel like thats a fine thing to figure out by testing it.  You barely ever see them nowadays, having them be more popular for a few days would be interesting