Goonhub
01-01-2020, 01:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-01-2020, 02:17 AM by Studenterhue. Edited 12 times in total.
Edit Reason: wait I forgot something about the basic ritual--also, reminder that there's an update since I made the post
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Ritual chalk has been added (some people divulged that a way to get it without admin action, but after some talks, Keelin said he was going to disable it until chalk for time being after I initially made this post), and sure it is hella cool except for one thing: if you attack someone with a sacrificial dagger over a sacrificum sigil (which you draw with ritual chalk), the victim will instantly die and be erased, with no body or brains to recover. They don't have to be stunned or anything, simply lying on the ground; I was able to do this on a corpse, I saw someone suicide and then delete their body by quickly doing this while they were dying, and SaccharineChampion told me about a round where someone went around slipping people and killing them this way.
Now, for one, as SaccharineChampion mentioned, this has basically no counterplay. This doesn't involve any chems, so unlike say freeze or dragon's breath, you can't try to purge it from your system. This doesn't involve any pathogens either, so unlike the gibbing or deadly chills/fever symptoms, so there's nothing to try to cure. (I mean, I guess death is kinda an ailment...?) There's no cooldown. It doesn't come at any cost to you, aside from obviously time.
But the biggest thing to me is that it's absolutely unnecessary. Ritual chalk has a lot of things going for it; with it, you can repressurize rooms quickly, heal people en masse, and make cute and adorable elemental bees. An instant kill that also destroys the body absolutely does not fit into any of this, and it does not need this kind of power to be relevant.
What would I specifically like? Really, I'm be fine with just throwing it out. I don't see any purpose in it aside from killing people, and ritual chalk does so much that I don't think it needs to be able to do that. If we really need a murdery use for ritual chalk, I'd definitely change to it to just remove a heart (or maybe just an random organ, including heart, if that's maybe too much) and maybe require at least as many sigils as the basic summon-a-bee ritual (which needs anchor, evoco, apis, plus energy source--4 sigils).
Since a couple of people have discussed some issues with some of the coders themselves at the personal level, I also want to make it clear I have no beef with the person responsible for this functionality. I'm not annoyed or angry at them. I'm just confused, and I don't see their logic behind this feature .
Now, for one, as SaccharineChampion mentioned, this has basically no counterplay. This doesn't involve any chems, so unlike say freeze or dragon's breath, you can't try to purge it from your system. This doesn't involve any pathogens either, so unlike the gibbing or deadly chills/fever symptoms, so there's nothing to try to cure. (I mean, I guess death is kinda an ailment...?) There's no cooldown. It doesn't come at any cost to you, aside from obviously time.
But the biggest thing to me is that it's absolutely unnecessary. Ritual chalk has a lot of things going for it; with it, you can repressurize rooms quickly, heal people en masse, and make cute and adorable elemental bees. An instant kill that also destroys the body absolutely does not fit into any of this, and it does not need this kind of power to be relevant.
What would I specifically like? Really, I'm be fine with just throwing it out. I don't see any purpose in it aside from killing people, and ritual chalk does so much that I don't think it needs to be able to do that. If we really need a murdery use for ritual chalk, I'd definitely change to it to just remove a heart (or maybe just an random organ, including heart, if that's maybe too much) and maybe require at least as many sigils as the basic summon-a-bee ritual (which needs anchor, evoco, apis, plus energy source--4 sigils).
Since a couple of people have discussed some issues with some of the coders themselves at the personal level, I also want to make it clear I have no beef with the person responsible for this functionality. I'm not annoyed or angry at them. I'm just confused, and I don't see their logic behind this feature .
