The ballistic system should not be buyable on Oshan and Manta

[Mouse]

See title.  Shotgun subs are too powerful for regular traitor use, IMO.

[GORE]

As Traitor Clown I agree. If you give that weapon to me I am sure to see to have everyone rekt. But my question be; how should you get it then?

Also....where can you buy it? A clown needs to change the financial records to buy it anyways - I reckon.

[Carbadox]

The weapon was originally balanced around pods that would have no way of having a clear and easy access to the station. The addition of pods caused the unforseen consequence of not only having a strong pod weapon with infinite ammo but also the fact that you're basically in a mech that protects you from head on damage and stuns.

It could probably be balanced out by giving it a limited amount of ammo + a package of that ammo that could be purchased seperately from the weapon.

[Mouse]

I'm not totally convinced the system itself needs to be changed - Oshan and Manta are significantly harder maps for nukies (especially Oshan, what with the trench) and being able to use shotgun minisubs is very helpful for them.

[Drago156]

Idea, just make subs unable to traverse station floor turfs already :|

[GORE]

I love and hate station-subs at the same time......but I think I would miss them too much being gone.

[Frank_Stein]

Idea, just make subs unable to traverse station floor turfs already :|

Make subs unable to traverse tiles that aren't above a minimum fluid depth

Probably need to twerk some pod hangars though