Lethals should do stamina damage

[Agent reburG]

If you let a security officer come within melee distance of you they are already taking a massive risk in that it can be easily shoved out of their hand and leave them mostly helpless

Okay, but what if they shove you back, if that is so effective. 

The baton debate is already repeating, we should avoid getting disarming through shoving debate in this too. 

SS13, is and always be clunky combat wise and isn't that okay as long it isn't outlandish unfair/unfun.

Feels like these debates keep focusing on winning or losing fights. 
I'm hilariously unrobust, lost practically every head-on fight even against newbees, still found ways to kill (security officer included) or getting away.
But most importantly, I (most of the time) had always fun. 
 There is always a way, through mechanics or RP (okay, maybe not the latter on classic)

[Cal]

Okay, but what if they shove you back, if that is so effective. 

You got a scuffle on your hands, take your meth pill and start stabbing