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Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injection - Ali0en - 03-04-2015
This would be a nice, tame way to execute bad guys without resorting to lasers or the detectives revolver. It could come empty to allow the HoS to mix up something fun. A mix of cat drugs and embalming fluid is hilarious.
Put it in the armory if need be. Would probably be better in the small prisoner room in the court for public executions, or in some new room.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - cgrn10 - 03-04-2015
my yes is yes
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Sundance - 03-04-2015
Yes.
The other IV bags in medbay should reject lethal reagents akin to a hypospray (and like a hypospray can be emagged)
The one in the armory remains the same (no rejection of lethal reagents)
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Roomba - 03-05-2015
I don't really think sec needs more tools to flashily kill already captured and helpless prisoners, but common sec players seem to be unanimously in favour, so eh. I guess if people aren't terrible with it.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Houka - 03-05-2015
Flashy ways to execute prisoners are WAY more interesting than just shooting them or spacing them, every single time. Also, electric chairs are stupidly dangerous and a lethal injection would be a good alternative to that.
I support this idea. (Because I got three of my limbs blown off during a public electric chair execution once.)
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Ed Venture - 03-05-2015
I agree this is a neat idea. It would be a nice alternative to the electric chair. Though I agree with others as well that it would need to be put in the armory.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Paineframe - 03-05-2015
Sec already has a chute that leads straight to an execution chamber, with the only caveat being that the execution has to be carried out by seasoned scientific professionals rather than a sec officer gleefully cackling at the opportunity to finally get a "valid kill" on someone.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - atomic1fire - 03-05-2015
On the other hand giving security a kill a dude IV drip would give scientists a valid reason to make horrific toxins.
"Yo Science, HOS wants you to put the worst things imaginable into a beaker so we can execute a guy."
"Can he explode?"
"No explosions please, just fire and/or toxins"
"Okay try this"
"Dear god what have you done?"
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - BaneOfGiygas - 03-05-2015
atomic1fire Wrote:On the other hand giving security a kill a dude IV drip would give scientists a valid reason to make horrific toxins.]I 100% approve of anything that gives scientists a way of being more useful to the station while still being under sanction to perfect and utilize methods in which to horribly kill living beings.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Paineframe - 03-05-2015
They already can do that, it's just that sec never cuts science in on the fun. I've always assumed there was a good reason that security has a chute leading to an armored room in Research that can be sealed from the outside, which can be filled with gas, and which has a chute well-positioned for delivering beaker bombs or other nasty things. There's nothing stopping Sec from coordinating an execution with the scientists now, and in fact there's infrastructure specifically dedicated to that purpose. And scientists would love nothing more than to have a chance to use their deathmixes on a live subject. The only problem is that sec never, ever asks science to help them out.
The only thing that your idea actually adds is putting the actual execution in the hands of the sec guard, reducing the scientist to a simple supplier. And honestly, I don't really like that. Partly because if you want to be judge, jury, and executioner you can just space people or beat them to death; sec officers stockpiling deathchems just in case they get the opportunity to kill someone seems like a negative move overall for the department. Also, sec doesn't actually need the help of science to get lethal stuff. They could ask research for chems, but if they have an easy chrm-giver, that's not what they'll actually do - they'll just grab a few things off the bar, mix them with some Discount Dan's, and dump the mix in the IV bag without even telling anyone, let alone involving anyone.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Ali0en - 03-05-2015
90% of the time sec gives a prisoner to scientists they just let them go or aren't interested. This is a security thing, if they want scientists to make them deathchems that's fine, that's part of their job. Scientists are not executors though.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - BaneOfGiygas - 03-05-2015
Paineframe Wrote:The only thing that your idea actually adds is putting the actual execution in the hands of the sec guard, reducing the scientist to a simple supplier. And honestly, I don't really like that.Pardon me if I'm inexperienced with proper execution etiquette, but isn't execution supposed to be put in the hands of the sec guard?
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Frank_Stein - 03-05-2015
Screw poisons. I want to IV drip prisoners with gravy until they are too fat to run away.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Paineframe - 03-06-2015
BaneOfGiygas Wrote:If you're talking about real life, no, convictions and executions are usually not carried out by the same person who arrested you (unless you're a non-white teenager). Personally, I think that we shouldn't encourage sec to think of executions as part of their job, both because it tends to lead to shitty behavior and because it tends to be something carried out silently in a dark corner based solely on one person's decision rather than something the station is involved in.Paineframe Wrote:The only thing that your idea actually adds is putting the actual execution in the hands of the sec guard, reducing the scientist to a simple supplier. And honestly, I don't really like that.Pardon me if I'm inexperienced with proper execution etiquette, but isn't execution supposed to be put in the hands of the sec guard?
If somebody's being a complete and total shitler and constantly robusting sec and just being a major pain to deal with, then sure, whatever, "accidentally" chuck them out an airlock. But if you've got somebody handled well enough that you can afford to spend the time using special execution equipment to give them a flashy end, I feel like that special equipment should be in the bridge or the courtroom or the chapel or the test chamber - anywhere but in some secluded corner in sec. It makes formal "for the good of the station" executions more of a communal thing. If you need to execute some gray tide moron for being a total and persistent shit, sec can still strangle them to death in their brig cell, but if you're going through the trouble of making a show out of it using dedicated equipment, it shouldn't be something sec does all on their own without anyone seeing or knowing. Besides, if you put execution equipment in sec, I feel like it leads to shitty sec behavior because newer/shittier/supercoppy sec will see that sec had dedicated execution equipment and assumed it was fine for them to use it whenever they wanted.
Re: Add an IV drip and chair in security for lethal injectio - Ali0en - 03-06-2015
Paineframe Wrote:If you're talking about real life, no, convictions and executions are usually not carried out by the same person who arrested you (unless you're a non-white teenager that tried to steal an officers gun).You are the very definition of anti-fun. There's 0 reason not to give sec this other than MY FEELINGS, DONT EXECUTE PEOPLE.