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Jack Hunter HOS application - smallsandman - 01-02-2026
Usual character name: Jack Hunter
BYOND username: Smallsandman
Discord username (if you are on our discord): smallsandman
Recommended by (if applicable): Glamurio/Ryou
Goon servers you play: 3 and 4
Reason for application:
It's been a bit, and I've had a lot of time to think. I realize at this point that I was much too hasty in my earlier attempts, a very "gotta get there soon, before im left behind" mentality, and that was not a healthy way to think about all this, the break allowed me to realize this, even if it took awhile to see it. This time I am applying for this role because command and security are my two favorite departments to play, and I believe I'd really enjoy playing the role that merges both. I love the style that command can bring to departments, and command is really fun to play for me, I also love the security gameplay loop being different each round based on what happens, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the combat and scenarios i encounter.
Security experience (300 word minimum):
I have been playing security for several years at this point if i remember correctly. I don't have the math but goonhub lists secoff as my favorite job. I can handle arrests and have a good grasp on how long to time brig stays, when and when not to search, and when ticketing or fines are more appropriate, I have experience keeping security or myself updated. I have experience coordinating a security team if they get disorganized or wanted someone keeping tabs.
I have a good idea of when the antag has gone too far and played their part in the round to start going lethal, or when to lay back and avoid hounding anyone while i wait for them to crime. I know when the armory is useful, usually i call for its use when the station is under assault from armed forces, or when we need a specific tool to deal with something, when our tasers just won't cut it.
I have a good idea of who to be following regarding the chain of command, and when they are overstepping their authority, like how the RD can stop sec from searching their department, but not from searching places outside of it, as well as who can overrule them. in this case the HOS, HOP, and CAPTAIN could overrule thier authority on the matter.
While it's definitely not necessary to be good security, combat comes up a lot in the job and I feel i am pretty good at that as well. It's not specifically security experience but I got a good sense for handling more then one thing at once when i was playing captain a lot, and that has helped in security as well. I also know when it's a good idea to take a step back from the game and take a break, at the end of the day this is just a game and if i get stressed i should know when to call it quits.
Answer two or more of the following:
What advice would you give to other sec players?
Playing Security is as much about allowing things to happen as it is stopping things from happening, if a bit hasn't gotten off the ground yet and you have reason to give the benefit of the doubt, it may be a good idea to take a step back and wait for the time it crosses the line, like people getting hurt. This however doesn't mean you should ignore your job, if someone reports something about an antag you probably shouldn't claim about how you think that antag isn't real, as that can make the crew not trust you to do your job. For the most part just do what makes sense for your character and the job you are playing, but don't be afraid to let something cook for a moment if it looks like it's unfinished if you can fit it in a way that makes sense. this role is often a balancing act.
What game improvements or changes do you think would benefit security players?
I've been really wanting to see a proper casefile system added to secmate or in some other way, a nice convenient way to cataloged cases. Maybe not many people would use it but some people would.
Describe any differences in your playstyle when part of a full security team and when being the only security officer.
The main difference is I'm more hesitant to get into fights with antags, and don't talk on radios as much (if there is no one to hear it), due to lacking a team behind me.
Answer one or more of the following fun questions (because it's important for the HoS to be fun):
What's a security gimmick that you've ran or wanted to run?
I've been wanting to get into proper evidence collection lately, photo's, bullet casings, printouts in folders. I know it's hardly necessary due to how the game is structured but it feels really nice when it all comes together.
Previous bans (while this will not affect your application lying about it will): None
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - ZodiaDecius - 01-04-2026
Sandman has proven time and time again to be a competent, capable leader, as well as a proficient and capable security member. Their contributions to security as a department OOC have been warmly welcomed, with the addition of the evidence rooms. They clearly care about the department.
That being said I have really only good things to say about the things I've seen of Jack IC, they are professional, and take things seriously. 2 things I would love to see from my HoS on a shift.
I could not +1 enough. You'd be a fantastic fit; and I believe that you would do a great job if given the opportunity
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - Nerkson - 01-05-2026
I am going to start my feedback by giving you my conclusion: I believe you should give yourself a few more months of time.
You are a very competent, mechanical player, and I cannot say you have ever done grievous wrong by me at the least. You clearly know how to play security and have spent a lot of time as all roles in security, from assistant to officer, detective to captain. Your recent work with updating security and creating the evidence room is all the more evidence of your love for the game, and I am grateful for everything you have done for the community in that regard. With that said, I do not believe you are currently a good candidate for Head of Security.
My interactions with Jack Hunter are usually met with the same issues - Jack is very focused and in tune with the progress of a round, to the detriment of everything else. When you play other roles you tend to end up hanging out around security and or command. When you do play a security role you tend to go quiet very often and do not lead the officers - in my experience you communicate no worse than other officers but not to the level HoS is needed to communicate. I have on at least one occasion talked to what seemed like a new security assistant and offered them training, spending a lot of round time doing so only to find out it was Jack random naming. I have been shot lethally by Jack because I patted their shoulder and they shot me out of a "fear reflex of being hunted by the Syndicate", and on a few occasions I have witnessed Jack threatening to sue others for shooting him.
Some actions I believe you can take that will make a huge difference:
- Take more time to roleplay with the rest of the crew, invest in their stories as much as your own. Jack seems like he has a lot of backstory behind him, but I never get to really see that much, and there are a lot of people on station who would love to learn it too - they can also potentially enhance his backstory and vice versa!
- Sometimes you lead from the front, but sometimes you need to lead from behind too - If you see an officer that looks overwhelmed, take time to help center them too. Maybe medical is shaken up from an attack, let others handle the next emergency if its possible so you can stick around medbay and reiterate that security is there for them.
- Let others have a place in the round too. Encourage a diverse source of feedback from all command about punishments or issues - the RD may not be in charge of security but you can certainly ask their opinions on things when it involves their employees or expertise too.
- I would suggest you try to learn more roles on the station. I am unsure if you know how to set up the engine, or cook food, or test artifacts. While the Head of Security is usually not doing those things, I think it helps to have a broad scope of how to help others in the round - as HoS you're a whitelist individual and you have an innate trust factor.
- Sometimes its okay to not do things by the books. I don't mean beating people to death for minor transgressions, but HoS is a very blurry role and sometimes you can't be technically correct in a very strict way. Not everyone will like your decisions, but learning to make decisions that benefit the round as a whole and give people the most forgiveness and leeway only helps everyone.
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - smallsandman - 01-10-2026
- Thank you for your feedback, i do want to respond where i can to hopefully clear some things up.I have on at least one occasion talked to what seemed like a new security assistant and offered them training, spending a lot of round time doing so only to find out it was Jack random naming.I apologize for wasting your time. I do not really do this anymore.I have been shot lethally by Jack because I patted their shoulder and they shot me out of a "fear reflex of being hunted by the Syndicate"I can't actually remember this... if i did do it I'm sorry. it was probably a while ago? and on a few occasions I have witnessed Jack threatening to sue others for shooting him. This is more of a funny character thing if anything, i do not typically intend to follow through.
- Take more time to roleplay with the rest of the crew, invest in their stories as much as your own. Jack seems like he has a lot of backstory behind him, but I never get to really see that much, and there are a lot of people on station who would love to learn it too - they can also potentially enhance his backstory and vice versa!
It is true that at times i would focus on sec or command, lately i've been trying to change that with things like sitting at the bar till we get a call, walking around and talking to people, i also do things like offer weapon maintenance training to the other security (though a majority of the timethe other sec doesn't wanna watch), maybe i should try that to the crew too.
- Sometimes you lead from the front, but sometimes you need to lead from behind too - If you see an officer that looks overwhelmed, take time to help center them too. Maybe medical is shaken up from an attack, let others handle the next emergency if its possible so you can stick around medbay and reiterate that security is there for them.
I admit i tend to only step up when it's expected or necessary at the current, i think i did it most often as captain, at least after the initial applications.(and when i was in those times trying to lead whenever i could a HOS player told me i was trying to hard!) when i see someone not knowing what to do in a situation i usually offer advise, or if i see someone not know what to give someone for punishment i tell them to "give them x time in the brig" or "give them a ticket" or whatever punishment that person needs and if a sec team definitely needs it i just do my best to lead them all in the right direction. Though since I'd lead when expected if i was playing HOS I'd be leading the whole round.
- Let others have a place in the round too. Encourage a diverse source of feedback from all command about punishments or issues - the RD may not be in charge of security but you can certainly ask their opinions on things when it involves their employees or expertise too.
This is something i try to do when i can, getting the head of staff involved in their own employee or asking their opinion but it can be rather difficult when they are hard to get ahold of or disappeared, i don't have a direct non general line to them if I'm not captain, though if i am captain i usually ask them over the radio or ask them to come down if i happen to be more closely working with security, which i try to avoid unless i can see the team is struggling, as i fear getting called seccap. I feel if i was constantly trying to get ahold of a head of staff sec would be finished with the perp by the time they got there., but i do wanna try this more actively.
- I would suggest you try to learn more roles on the station. I am unsure if you know how to set up the engine, or cook food, or test artifacts. While the Head of Security is usually not doing those things, I think it helps to have a broad scope of how to help others in the round - as HoS you're a whitelist individual and you have an innate trust factor.
I've played this game for 5 years at the time of writing, i know every role on a base level at minimum i just focused on security and command roles due to how different they tend to be in gameplay loop compared to a lot of the other ones. also i know those were rhetorical but to answer them, i know how to set every engine besides hotspots and nuclear at a base level, cooking food is pretty easy, and i used to play a decent amount of artlab scientist.
- Sometimes its okay to not do things by the books. I don't mean beating people to death for minor transgressions, but HoS is a very blurry role and sometimes you can't be technically correct in a very strict way. Not everyone will like your decisions, but learning to make decisions that benefit the round as a whole and give people the most forgiveness and leeway only helps everyone.
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - Angel - 01-10-2026
From my experience with playing as HoS during shifts jack was captain, he seems like a fine player, I do not believe I have ever seen him do any egregious thing as captain, which holds similar importance and equally as "dangerous" gear as a HoS, so I believe he would do fine with the extra responsibility HoS has. I also noticed captain jack is active in the radio and will answer different departments, which is a good ability to have as a HoS since you need to bounce between different conversations. My interactions with jack in the discord are also positive, I have not seen jack make any toxic commentaries there, and seems to overall be a positive presence.
+1
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - smallsandman - 01-13-2026
(01-10-2026, 08:38 AM)smallsandman Wrote:
I admit i tend to only step up when it's expected or necessary at the current, i think i did it most often as captain, at least after the initial applications.(and when i was in those times trying to lead whenever i could a HOS player told me i was trying to hard!) when i see someone not knowing what to do in a situation i usually offer advise, or if i see someone not know what to give someone for punishment i tell them to "give them x time in the brig" or "give them a ticket" or whatever punishment that person needs and if a sec team definitely needs it i just do my best to lead them all in the right direction. Though since I'd lead when expected if i was playing HOS I'd be leading the whole round.
I have decided to forget this for now. I will be trying to show my leadership skills.
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - laugoose - 01-13-2026
After playing with Jack a while, I can say that he has been trying really hard to improve upon the advice given here and I have noticed a considerable difference!
At the start of the application I had noticed some of the things that were described such as focusing more on the round than the RP, but I can definitely say he has made steps towards improving this. He is also a reliable officer to have around, communicates well and is great with adding onto other people's characters.
The only things I would like to see more of is leadership, as he has described above. Whilst I haven't seen much of it, he has given out useful orders and clarified things that might have otherwise led to a round issue.
I would be delighted to have him lead Security. +1 from me. Also, the beret'll hide his green hair. Ew.
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - sphoenix - 01-14-2026
disclamer: I don't tend to play security at all, though I do play command a lot.
I have interacted with Jack a lot and in my experience when on a job he is very professional about it, especially when doing security or command, plus he takes the RP very seriously. Personally I can only say positive things about said interactions.
While playing on command he tends to coordinate a lot with different heads/departments instead of just trying to do a 'one man army' gameplay.
For these reasons I do believe he would do a fine job at hos.
+1
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - GuardianPotato - 01-17-2026
Sandman or as I will call him from here on, "Hunter" from his character Jack Hunter, has shown to me that while not perfect he is capable of well rounded reactions and growth. Hunter plays captain and security officer primarily and in my experience in those roles acts in a "manager role" with handling antagonists in a respectful manner of roleplay that can sometimes be lacking when we play on the small population server whatever that may be at the time. I think he is a good addition to the HoS team that could be needed as of this writing to add a needed amount of roleplay and thought that can be lacking. Hunter has my vote of confidence that he will add a roleplay element of behavior we are sorely lacking in some rounds, in short a +1 is due for this growing character that is capable of a healthy escalation with a understanding of letting those around him handle the work as needed.
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - Croissant - 01-29-2026
Whilst I've seen Jack on several occasions like the previous replies above in a security / command position, I have myself not interacted too extensively with Jack (Mainly not recently at least.).
What I can say however is that the few interactions I DO remember are all quite positive, and, my takeaway from this perhaps narrow lens is that ; You understand well your position in a RP setting and engage easily with peoples gimmicks even if you are in a position of authority, where some would instead dismiss them. I feel that being able to go along with the flow of the situation can make for a fun HoS, especially so when it extends to antags. A +1 from me.
RE: Jack Hunter HOS application - Your Milk Cookies - 01-31-2026
Fun to be around and a rp oriented officer when i see them, has improved a lot over time, I'm in approval