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Ban Miners from Vampire. - JORJ949 - 06-26-2025
Very simple change, just wanting general thoughts around it. Should miners be unable to roll vampire on space maps? They cannot go into space even with a suit on (afaik) and so cannot do their job. This wouldn't stop someone rolling vampire if they got miner, but stop you rolling miner if you rolled vampire, like other job-based antag bans work.
Alternative is making miner vampires not take damage in space.
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - Agent reburG - 06-26-2025
(06-26-2025, 04:29 AM)JORJ949 Wrote: Very simple change, just wanting general thoughts around it. Should miners be unable to roll vampire on space maps? They cannot go into space even with a suit on (afaik) and so cannot do their job. This wouldn't stop someone rolling vampire if they got miner, but stop you rolling miner if you rolled vampire, like other job-based antag bans work.
Alternative is making miner vampires not take damage in space.
Makes sense, for a similar reason were Vampire Chaplains removed (plus the idea of Chaplains being the counter-role), I doubt anyone would be upset by this.
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - freedo5 - 06-26-2025
Personally i think it wouldn't make much sense for miners (also oshan engineers) to not be able to spawn as vampires, i understand that then you can become a suspect easily because you aren't working. What i have done is ask HoP for another job or in some maps there's already drills for the space pods so i use those.
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - Vulwin_Gilran - 06-26-2025
I feel its probably not needed to prevent vampires from being miners, and Agent chaplains CAN be vampires actually (unless there was a VERY recent change on the matter which i didnt see). I think its fine on the grounds of it being funny mainly, and you can still pod mine. Im not sure if its a thing already but i wouldnt be opposed to proper space suits somewhat reducing starlight crisping. I definitely feel like miner vampires taking no damage in space isnt the best option, but they could get the damage reduced a bit perhaps since they are more "tolerant" to it.
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - JORJ949 - 06-26-2025
(06-26-2025, 04:41 AM)Agent reburG Wrote:(06-26-2025, 04:29 AM)JORJ949 Wrote: Very simple change, just wanting general thoughts around it. Should miners be unable to roll vampire on space maps? They cannot go into space even with a suit on (afaik) and so cannot do their job. This wouldn't stop someone rolling vampire if they got miner, but stop you rolling miner if you rolled vampire, like other job-based antag bans work.
Alternative is making miner vampires not take damage in space.
Makes sense, for a similar reason were Vampire Chaplains removed (plus the idea of Chaplains being the counter-role), I doubt anyone would be upset by this.
Vampire chaplains were returned because they gain chapel immunity
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - LeahTheTech - 06-26-2025
Yeah I think that's fine, just make them roll ling instead ala chaplain
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - Mouse - 06-26-2025
Do spacesuits not block vampire space damage? Because I've seen vampires run around in space in suits for ages with no apparent injuries.
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - Agent reburG - 06-26-2025
(06-26-2025, 05:30 AM)JORJ949 Wrote:(06-26-2025, 04:41 AM)Agent reburG Wrote:(06-26-2025, 04:29 AM)JORJ949 Wrote: Very simple change, just wanting general thoughts around it. Should miners be unable to roll vampire on space maps? They cannot go into space even with a suit on (afaik) and so cannot do their job. This wouldn't stop someone rolling vampire if they got miner, but stop you rolling miner if you rolled vampire, like other job-based antag bans work.
Alternative is making miner vampires not take damage in space.
Makes sense, for a similar reason were Vampire Chaplains removed (plus the idea of Chaplains being the counter-role), I doubt anyone would be upset by this.
Vampire chaplains were returned because they gain chapel immunity
Damn, that kinda doesn't make sense, but yeah that validates space proof miners. At least in that aspect.
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - meaow589 - 06-26-2025
In general vampire do work?
in classic server most of time i rarely see any productive from the job they have
i don’t think it much effect but it okey.
RE: Ban Miners from Vampire. - Emimiyu - 06-26-2025
(06-26-2025, 04:15 PM)meaow589 Wrote: In general vampire do work?
in classic server most of time i rarely see any productive from the job they have
i don’t think it much effect but it okey.
In the defense of the argument, the issue would be vampire not having to use things from their dept because it would just kill them (example : asteroid loot, matsci.minmax)
Another thing is that is easy to meta if miner is a vampire by just not doing their job, so stealth is not an option.
I do think there is a better way to solve the solution considering vampire chaplain can survive inside chapel.