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Sandy Desmond for HoS - Vulwin_Gilran - 04-27-2025 Usual character name: Sandy Desmond BYOND username: Vulwin Gilran Discord username (if you are on our discord): baconb01 Recommended by (if applicable): N/A Goon servers you play: Sylvester and Morty Reason for application: I often find myself in a curious position where I WOULD give orders, demand status reports, and the such from fellow officers but i often hesitate because I feel like I lack the position from which to give advice and ask things of the security team. I enjoy interacting with antagonists whether its banter over the radio, chasing them, or getting murdered by them and the HoS often seems to be a good target to yell at/target as an antagonist. I also find myself in a timezone where I rarely see HoS roles filled, so I think I could give it a go and help out. Security experience (300 word minimum): I have around 1645 hours, and I would believe a third or more of that is likely to be as a member of security. I played a lot of security assistant before I got the confidence to play as an officer, because I wanted to try and learn from exposure off of the more established security players. I find that longer than usual period as an assistant helped me with dealing with minor crime/disputes, as it got me familiar with using the ticketing/fining tools. Due to my timezone, I often find myself online during lowpop rounds and often with a very small security team of maybe one other officer. This is an example I find where I naturally try and start enforcing communication and regular status reports. I try and make sure, when deciding punishments, to act only on what we can PROVE happened. This is a common pet peeve of mine, because during some rounds all that is needed to arrest someone is an eyewitness claiming over radio they saw someone "turn into a bat" or "draining power" or "dragged staffie mcjones into a tunnel" without actually doing due diligence on the case. we can THINK this suspect mcgee PROBABLY killed more people than just the one we found but unless we can actually prove it, it shouldn't influence their brig time/exile/execution. One of the reasons I started picking back up security officer was I felt I became more robust, which I understand isnt a requirement I just prefer being able to hold my own if i had this. The second reason is I have experienced as an antagonist the crushing weight of an overly aggressive security team, and it has made me a bit more self aware of some of my own behaviors that I had needed to correct. Overall though with my security experience the things that I have the most memory of aren't the fights and the action, it's when I am able to just talk to the person and lay out the situation, and what potentially could of turned into an armed chase with an arcfiend turns into a peaceful resolution. Answer two or more of the following:
RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Vulwin_Gilran - 04-29-2025 I didn't initially answer this question but i have recently noticed it more, I think a good improvement would be having pod locks spawn in all security pod-bays, or even have all security pods just have locks in them. Most officers will lock a pod if it already has a lock yet most don't remember to make one then insert it. (On a personal side-note i thought the thing that would be hard to swallow would be receiving feedback but ive found its far more disheartening to receiving nothing) RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Lefinch - 04-29-2025 This is just me and that others might disagree and not related to any feedback, but I think it's worth bearing in mind the following regarding getting feedback or not. First, your application is pretty fresh still! If you look at other applications this cycle and approved/denied applications you'll see a pattern where it might take some time for feedback to come in. One reason I suspect the application cycles are generally around two months is to give people time to read, consider and give feedback. It also has the benefit of putting you in the spotlight for maybe paying a bit more attention to how you're doing during the application period. Further, it's worth bearing in mind that feedback is there not just for you to take on (which is a great part but not all of it) but also to help admins make their decision which is also entirely separate. There are plenty of approved applications with little feedback, and plenty of denied applications that are crammed with positive feedback. I have no idea of the specifics of how they arrive at a decision, but it's clear the quantity of feedback is not the deciding factor. So for now, and again this is separate of any endorsement or critique I'd say don't be disheartened, get out there and enjoy the game playing some security and getting to engage with people, and hopefully that will encourage people who have a positive experience with you to come back here and give you some feedback. RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Vulwin_Gilran - 04-29-2025 Thanks, I get in my own head sometimes about this stuff and you're right, application process takes a while which is a good thing!! RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - JORJ949 - 04-30-2025 I'll just say this because I haven't been paying close enough attention to give you feedback when seeing you in game yet but: don't be afraid to coordinate the team. Even if there is a head of security helping them with coordinating the team will take some of the pressure off them AND show them how you would act if you were actually in charge, I know that if someone on my team is coordinating I will only step in when I need to. RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Vulwin_Gilran - 04-30-2025 that add on at the end is correct! I was VERY CONFUSED for a bit RACKING my brain about this. Its fine hah, i see you give ALOT of really high quality feedback on the other applications so its reasonable that you might make a wee mistake eventually RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Lefinch - 05-01-2025 ACTUAL FEEDBACK, SORRY ABOUT THAT Hi Vulwin, so I had some chances to watch a few rounds just before you applied and have watched some since. I'm not a security regular so please feel free to take my feedback with a pinch of salt. I actually saw quite a few rounds with you in various roles that I'm going to generalise so this isn't even longer, then focus on a specific round for case-examples. Then I'll summarise at the end if you just want the bottom line stuff. General stuff
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RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Vulwin_Gilran - 05-01-2025 that is very helpful! I definitely agree that i can end up being heavy handed on sentences because in part im worried about giving too little time if that makes any sense? very fair critique with the rotfather thing too, i feel im usually pretty good at managing "impulsive" reactions like that, but its probably something i need to continue to work on. RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - avanth - 05-08-2025 I've seen Sandy a hand full of times ever since I came back from my break, and while I cannot comment on everything quite yet, there are a few things I would like to note. First, I haven't seen a whole lot of leadership from them but what I have seen are ample amounts of communication and a few counts of training, as well as being quite eager to impart their knowledge onto the newer players. Most of the time I've encountered them they've been instructing one, or more newer players in security. Due to this I can't quite comment on other things relating to the department yet, but I will be keeping an eye out in the future. Neutral for the moment, but certainly looking forward to seeing how things develop and progress. RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Skotcher - 05-12-2025 I dont have more guided feedback yet, but I wanted to comment this while its fresh in my mind. I recently observed two rounds where Sandy took it upon themselves to help teach two Security Assistants learn the ropes. The first round, one security assistant joined late and Sandy checked in with team, saw that there was time to help guide the new assistant, and began teaching them how to use the tools available to them. Once the round ended, they checked in with the newer player, heard they were still interested, and volunteered to take the new round to teach them again. This is where a second new assistant joined and they seamlessly integrated the lessons with both assistants present. At no point did I feel like info was being missed. They brought other officers in to the teaching moments and helped make the assistants feel like they were part of the team. Both players expressed gratitude for the help and complimented the teaching style. While I still want to watch some more rounds and get a sense of how Sandy evaluates the rounds and engages with them, I think this moment demonstrates good leadership qualities that we want from a HoS. Looking forward to seeing you more in the rounds, Sandy. RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Vulwin_Gilran - 05-12-2025 I will note that I will slowly be becoming less and less online on ss13 over the coming two weeks due to leading up to the end of my uni semester, I will probably only be around late fridays, and a bit during the weekends. just so if anyone is looking for me and it seems like ive dropped off the face of the earth, i havent! just REALLY busy with uni stuff ![]() RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - tamakona - 05-19-2025 (05-12-2025, 09:09 AM)Skotcher Wrote: I dont have more guided feedback yet, but I wanted to comment this while its fresh in my mind. I recently observed two rounds where Sandy took it upon themselves to help teach two Security Assistants learn the ropes. The first round, one security assistant joined late and Sandy checked in with team, saw that there was time to help guide the new assistant, and began teaching them how to use the tools available to them. Once the round ended, they checked in with the newer player, heard they were still interested, and volunteered to take the new round to teach them again. This is where a second new assistant joined and they seamlessly integrated the lessons with both assistants present. At no point did I feel like info was being missed. They brought other officers in to the teaching moments and helped make the assistants feel like they were part of the team. Both players expressed gratitude for the help and complimented the teaching style. While I still want to watch some more rounds and get a sense of how Sandy evaluates the rounds and engages with them, I think this moment demonstrates good leadership qualities that we want from a HoS.I believe I am that assistant, so I can wholeheartedly +1 this. He makes an effort to ensure the entire squad has a good experience and an equal chance at participating in the fun, whether it's asking said assistant to shadow him on a mission or playing out the antagonist's hostage situation. In my opinion that attentiveness is a value rarely found and underappreciated. I've also noticed a cool-headedness that persists even through the most chaotic rounds. Overall, I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone more suited for the role. RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Emimiyu - 05-20-2025 A recent round I had as AI. There was a new Captain that did had an issue on uploading laws on previous round. The captain was told about not doing so post round and I remember during that round, you were observing them and talk about the law situation. On the next round, the same captain and I were conversing normally through upload intercoms. When captain asked me a question about protecting the station, you overheard it, rush to security radio yelling to the hos they need to check the upload about how captain will put a law on me. In that round, both you of the HoS scold him about law uploads. Here, from my perspective, it felt like you took something from previous round and use the OOC information to deduce Captain is up to no good because he was conversing with me inside upload, especially when said captain was new to captaining and uploading laws. On the same round, I told security that the roboticist may be a syndicate, after I found out about a syndie converter on latter part of the round. Post round, on discord, you said that I was over eager on arresting the roboticist, while I was just telling security about what happen in robotics. You then told on discord that it was a small issue and there was a bigger thing. I do get that not all cases have to be "fixed" by security, but it feels odd to say I was over eager over just reporting what I see and dismissing what I told because "it is not that major" Unsure if I could see you fit the HoS role from this round. RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Vulwin_Gilran - 05-20-2025 if that is the round i am thinking of, i didnt overhear anything from your intercoms, the captain had shown me a law they had intentions of installing which was the "conserve station" law, so i informed the only person in security who could actually check on if they were going to upload that. This will feed into my later thing too, but my tone is probably something i still need to work on sometimes. Additionally that round with the roboticist, after i went to check to see if there was indeed the cyborg converter (assuming this was the round where it was like a pirate cove?) i did set them to arrest (or atleast i tried), because in the rush of everything going on i just went, secmate, roboticist, arrest. but i recall someone had swapped the records for the MD (also a syndicate) with the roboticist, so all i did was set the MD still on arrest. But regardless to that I still was dismissive towards your callout, and how i tone myself is probably something i still need to improve on. okay! i was looking for a bit and found what i said "ill be honest the AI was er, REALLY insistent about us getting you". Fair enough criticism on that, I didnt really think about how you would feel when reading that and i apologize. I appreciate the honest feedback. (this was just an attempt to try and provide some context to some of my actions, not as any kind of justification) RE: Sandy Desmond for HoS - Drakios - 06-06-2025 So far Sandy felt like an competent player from what I saw and remember, they know how to be serious and they now how to be goofy. They communicate well and from what I remember make good decisions. I had a recent round with them were we had salvs, and they were in a pod scouting and fighting them while occasionally hitting one or two salv so hard they saw the end of the tunnel before the light even had a chance because the pod was very speedy, it caused some fun RP moments and made some laughter as the HoS had to formally apologize TWICE for them hitting people with a pod even tho they there salvs. I think they bring a general positive attitude to the team and can be trusted with tasks. What I personally cant recall much is them taking a bit more of an command role inside sec, they do keep check ins and report what is going on well but helping to organize can be a huge thing even when an HoS is on board. I sadly cant remember much even tho I tried watching them more closely because of this application, but Im bad at multitasking, but I tried to still give my best for the review, so from what I saw I tend to a more positive note, I cant give a clear +1 because of the things I mentioned before, but from what I remember and saw I dont think they would be bad as an HoS |