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ACID SPIT STUFFS - Saintish - 03-14-2014
So, I've played Changeling on here only twice, yes, but I've always seen acid spit to be a bit overpowered - not in what it does, which is totally justified considering how otherwise tough the Changeling's job can be, but in how it can be shot when the Changeling is wearing a biohood or hardsuit helmet. Should this be changed? Not minor stuff like the internals mask, or gag equipment like the clown mask/balaclava.
That's basically it.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Amuys - 03-14-2014
It would be neat. Changelings are pretty strong already, and unlike vampires who have space and thermals to counter much of their strength, lings don't really have that many effective counters.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Spy_Guy - 03-14-2014
Amuys Wrote:It would be neat. Changelings are pretty strong already, and unlike vampires who have space and thermals to counter much of their strength, lings don't really have that many effective counters.You wanna know a hard counter to a ling?
Don't be alone in maint like a bozo.
Unless the ling horrorforms it will get beat up and have its lunch money, shoes and life taken if it tries fighting more than one person at once.
Yes, there was that one time one of you people took down 20 staff assistant armed with fire extinguishers while a ling wearing nothing but the athletic shorts, I know you're out there. Get off the keyboard, stop posting.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Amuys - 03-14-2014
Well the same counter can be said to any antag basically. Brainburgers are somewhat a counter against lings though.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Saintish - 03-14-2014
Spy_Guy Wrote:Amuys Wrote:It would be neat. Changelings are pretty strong already, and unlike vampires who have space and thermals to counter much of their strength, lings don't really have that many effective counters.You wanna know a hard counter to a ling?
Don't be alone in maint like a bozo.
Unless the ling horrorforms it will get beat up and have its lunch money, shoes and life taken if it tries fighting more than one person at once.
Yes, there was that one time one of you people took down 20 staff assistant armed with fire extinguishers while a ling wearing nothing but the athletic shorts, I know you're out there. Get off the keyboard, stop posting.
I've had acid spit at me by a Changeling 10 minutes into the match before, right next to EVA. In broad daylight. They had a biohood on, and I was a janitor, so I was all, "Hey, you a Janitor too?" before being knocked out by the acid almost immediately.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Dauntasa - 03-14-2014
There's no point in making them not work if the changeling is wearing a mask because Changelings don't need air and never have to wear masks anyway
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - poland spring - 03-15-2014
Maybe masks should provide protection against acid spit to some degree? Like, if someone's wearing gas mask, maybe it dissolves in the acid spit and gives them one chance to run off.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - poland spring - 03-15-2014
Maybe masks should provide protection against acid spit to some degree? Like, if someone's wearing gas mask, maybe it dissolves in the acid spit and gives them one chance to run off.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Captain_Bravo - 03-15-2014
Spy_Guy Wrote:Amuys Wrote:Unless the ling horrorforms it will get beat up and have its lunch money, shoes and life taken if it tries fighting more than one person at once.
This is actually not true anymore. Neurotoxin sting may take a second to actually take effect, but with a little light dodging, a changeling can easily and effectively shut down two people. With some luck and hallucinogenic sting, it might be able to handle three. And that's assuming it hasn't managed to get any weapons yet.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Crumplehat - 03-15-2014
poland spring Wrote:Maybe masks should provide protection against acid spit to some degree? Like, if someone's wearing gas mask, maybe it dissolves in the acid spit and gives them one chance to run off.
Ehhh, nah, man, like 60-70% of the people on the station are already running around with masks on at any given time. This would just give people incentive to never take them off, when there's already no reason to not wear a mask.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - atomic1fire - 03-15-2014
Why not make Bio Suits + bio hood Spit resistant.
Chances are no one is going to walk around in a bio suit all whilly except a scientist.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Saintish - 03-16-2014
Dauntasa Wrote:There's no point in making them not work if the changeling is wearing a mask because Changelings don't need air and never have to wear masks anyway
No, Changelings often wear biosuits and armored helmets to hide their identity based on appearance alone.
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Saintish - 03-16-2014
I said in the OP that the acid spit should still be able to be fired if the Changeling is wearing something minor like an internals breathmask or a gag mask. How about if the Changeling is wearing one of the anti-acidspit helmets, they can still fire it, they just have to make a three second adjustment to their helmet each time they fire it? This would be only semi-stealthy, with the message "George Melons begins to twist off his helmet's mouthpiece, extending a proboscis as he does so" showing up to players within a three tile range.
I've made a list of things that should make it so the Changeling has to adjust their helmet to shoot out acid spit:
- Biohood
Space Helmet
Engineering Space Helmet
Industrial Armor Helmet
Syndicate Space Helmet
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Amuys - 03-16-2014
Welder helmet?
Re: ACID SPIT STUFFS - Saintish - 03-16-2014
Amuys Wrote:Welder helmet?Oh, yeah, that too, but they should just have to open the mask like normal for that.