• It is too easy to get T5s (there is currently a Pull Request on Github addressing this issue)
  
• The only way to battle pathology, is pathology (i.e. cures can only be made in pathology by someone knowledgable, and is easily prevented)
  
• There is a general disconnect between pathology and other systems of the game
  

• Remove mutating in the stat adjusting window to get symptoms, it is way too quick and it is a boring way to do things compared to the intended method of the dna analyzer.
  
• Potentially add other ways of curing that do not require pathology. (Curing with just suppressants or maybe something different). This will help people that do not want to learn pathology (for reasons that are completely beyond my understanding :^)) and it will also make it possible to cure pathogens if the pathologist that made them blew up the machines.
  
• Make it so you can only have a limited amount of spreading symptoms on a pathogen, so people can protect themselves more adequately (airborne transmission->get internals, etc...) rather than always needing the whole set of gear. In addition, remove white shoes as a kind of needed protection because that is hella dumb.
  
• Potentially also limit the amount of non-spreading symptoms a pathogen can have. This can also serve to rebalance the different microbodies so Virus isn't the best in pretty much any situation. (So maybe a bacterium can have loads of symptoms, but can only go to stage 3 while a virus could go to stage 5 but you could only put one tier 5 symptom on it. Something like that). For the purposes of the dna analyzer, there could be a kind of microbody that can carry an unlimited amount of symptoms but cannot advance past stage 1 or something. Maybe fungi, fuck fungi.
  
• Add more interesting beneficial symptoms, most of the current ones are just passive healing, which is really boring. Of course, this is much easier said than done.
  
• Make it so a health analyzer shows the general amount of beneficial vs harmful symptoms a pathogen has, so people can tell if a pathogen is harmful. This should reduce the amount of times that I get fucking murdered am falsely arrested.
  

(04-29-2020, 08:30 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: I'd like if pathogens occured in the wild more.

Stuff like getting sick from exposure to bad food, tunnel fungus, etc, with pathogen being where you go to get treated.

And if they want to cultivate what you come in with more power to them

(04-29-2020, 08:30 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: I'd like if pathogens occured in the wild more.

Stuff like getting sick from exposure to bad food, tunnel fungus, etc, with pathogen being where you go to get treated.

And if they want to cultivate what you come in with more power to them

(04-29-2020, 06:39 AM)zjdtmkhzt Wrote: I've said this before in other places, but I might as well repeat it here again. This is my plan so far for how pathology can hopefully be somewhat brought in line:

• Remove mutating in the stat adjusting window to get symptoms, it is way too quick and it is a boring way to do things compared to the intended method of the dna analyzer.
  
• Potentially add other ways of curing that do not require pathology. (Curing with just suppressants or maybe something different). This will help people that do not want to learn pathology (for reasons that are completely beyond my understanding :^)) and it will also make it possible to cure pathogens if the pathologist that made them blew up the machines.
  
• Make it so you can only have a limited amount of spreading symptoms on a pathogen, so people can protect themselves more adequately (airborne transmission->get internals, etc...) rather than always needing the whole set of gear. In addition, remove white shoes as a kind of needed protection because that is hella dumb.
  
• Potentially also limit the amount of non-spreading symptoms a pathogen can have. This can also serve to rebalance the different microbodies so Virus isn't the best in pretty much any situation. (So maybe a bacterium can have loads of symptoms, but can only go to stage 3 while a virus could go to stage 5 but you could only put one tier 5 symptom on it. Something like that). For the purposes of the dna analyzer, there could be a kind of microbody that can carry an unlimited amount of symptoms but cannot advance past stage 1 or something. Maybe fungi, fuck fungi.
  
• Add more interesting beneficial symptoms, most of the current ones are just passive healing, which is really boring. Of course, this is much easier said than done.
  
• Make it so a health analyzer shows the general amount of beneficial vs harmful symptoms a pathogen has, so people can tell if a pathogen is harmful. This should reduce the amount of times that I get fucking murdered am falsely arrested.
  

(04-29-2020, 08:41 AM)zjdtmkhzt Wrote:

(04-29-2020, 08:30 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: I'd like if pathogens occured in the wild more.

Stuff like getting sick from exposure to bad food, tunnel fungus, etc, with pathogen being where you go to get treated.

And if they want to cultivate what you come in with more power to them

Somehow I kind of doubt randomly getting sick will make people like pathology more, haha.
Didn't there used to be random pathogen events? Those were probably removed for a reason. :/

(04-29-2020, 02:46 PM)Lord Birb Wrote: How about we actually start treating the mutation exploit like an exploit and jobban everyone who abuses it from any jobs with pathology access until it gets fixed?

(04-29-2020, 02:56 PM)Lord Birb Wrote: Restating what I said in the other thread

(04-29-2020, 02:46 PM)Lord Birb Wrote: How about we actually start treating the mutation exploit like an exploit and jobban everyone who abuses it from any jobs with pathology access until it gets fixed?