(04-09-2017, 03:40 AM)awfulworldkid Wrote: I also say yes to giving the AI more to do. Deploying floorbots to breaches, firebots to giant infernos, and cleanbots to big messes might actually let the AI help the station in a way other than by opening doors. Or, if it's rogue, it can direct emagged bots to somewhere that they'll do the most harm.

(04-09-2017, 07:38 AM)Wraithcraft Wrote:

(04-09-2017, 03:40 AM)awfulworldkid Wrote: I also say yes to giving the AI more to do. Deploying floorbots to breaches, firebots to giant infernos, and cleanbots to big messes might actually let the AI help the station in a way other than by opening doors. Or, if it's rogue, it can direct emagged bots to somewhere that they'll do the most harm.

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(04-09-2017, 07:38 AM)Wraithcraft Wrote:

(04-09-2017, 03:40 AM)awfulworldkid Wrote: I also say yes to giving the AI more to do. Deploying floorbots to breaches, firebots to giant infernos, and cleanbots to big messes might actually let the AI help the station in a way other than by opening doors. Or, if it's rogue, it can direct emagged bots to somewhere that they'll do the most harm.

An army of amusing ducks.

(04-07-2017, 05:58 PM)Frank_Stein Wrote: I really think AI needs to borrow some blob code, not just in the viewing mode, but also some other things like abilities, hud, and hotkeys. Do the overmind view, move some of the AI tab stuff to HUD abilities for easier access, and add some new abilities to make the job easier and more involved without overpowering the AI

Couple ideas for new AI abilities in an overmind mode:

1. Summon bot: Click a tile, get a list of bot types that exist and how many, click one and have it travel to the tile you clicked. Respond to fires, send medical attention, aid security, all indirectly with your bot buds
   
2. Bookmarking: Place a waypoint on a tile or mob and assign it to a number key. Simply press that number to have your view travel to that spot
   
3. Waypoints: Someone need help finding something or someone? Set a waypoint for it by clicking it and making it, and let people use trackers or PDA apps to guide them to the location. No need to give them constant verbal updates. Tag messes, breaches, dead bodies and notify the appropriate human
   
4. Fast APC: Wanna mess with a rooms lights, equipment, or life support? Activate this to have the window for the nearest APC pop open so you don't have to hunt it down anymore
   
5. Change vision mode: Cycle through different visions to help filter out information. Different vision types could include:
   

•  Heat signatures - filters everything as a dark blue, while popping out humans and monkeys as a bright orange. Useful for finding people in dark areas
  
• Atmospheric - filters everything as dark green. Tiles that contain gasses are brightly colored various pinks, oranges, reds based on what type of gas is prominent. Useful for spotting breaches
  
• Electrical - filters everything dark red. Electrical currents are highlighted a bright white, with intensity in proportion to the amount of power flowing through. Useful for detecting power outages and sinks
  

That's a few right there that just makes the work the AI already does easier and faster. It's a job that for as important a role as it's considered really needs more love in terms of content and quality of life. It's the only job I have in unwanted, not because I disliked it, but got really sick of having to fight against the controls and mechanics of it while everything else is being made more accessible.

(04-09-2017, 07:43 PM)NateTheSquid Wrote: AI shouldn't be able to direct most emagged bots, like it can't control emagged beepsky, but maybe there could be a control unit for bots in the AI upload/core that can be disabled/emagged to change the AI's control

(04-09-2017, 08:12 PM)Frank_Stein Wrote:

(04-09-2017, 07:43 PM)NateTheSquid Wrote: AI shouldn't be able to direct most emagged bots, like it can't control emagged beepsky, but maybe there could be a control unit for bots in the AI upload/core that can be disabled/emagged to change the AI's control

Absolutely. Having switches for all the AI abilities would be a good idea. Maybe some of the more powerful ones start turned off and the AI needs to gain the crew's trust to get someone to engage them, or a traitor rogues the AI and then turns them on. Alternatively, you can depower a bad AI instead of outright killing them.

(04-09-2017, 02:12 PM)Superlagg Wrote: {...}
Personally, I think the AI should be able to run much the station by itself, albeit in a reduced, much more pain-in-the-ass capacity. Such as if some of the crew didn't feel like showing up, the AI could fill in some of the vital parts of the role so that the ones who *did* aren't as punished by the absence.

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Personally, I think the AI should be able to run much the station by itself, albeit in a reduced, much more pain-in-the-ass capacity. Such as if some of the crew didn't feel like showing up, the AI could fill in some of the vital parts of the role so that the ones who *did* aren't as punished by the absence.

(04-11-2017, 08:07 PM)Vitatroll Wrote: Like, I want AIs to have more fun, and be more useful, but I have irrational fears of silicons completely dominating the station time and time again. Besides, don't AI already have pinpoint bot control? I remember them using it often in the past -- it's called teleman.

- Bot 'posession' is A-OK in my book. Sounds fun. Especially if they get to control emagged bots.

- Vision types are really neat. I'd like more 'vision types' in game in general.

- Camera controls -- I like the AI overmind idea the best. If it even needs to be restricted, a black overlay would probably be good'nuff.

• Hence why there should be switches that turn these abilities on and off. And teleman isn't really the most accessible thing. Giving bots orders is for beginners, using the teleporter to send them where you want instantly is for pros
  
• Not possession, direction. Real Time Stratgey troop deployment style. You're simply telling the bots where to go, and letting their programming kick in once they get there. Possession could be one of those abilities that is defaulted to off at roundstart though, since it would be a lot more powerful
  
• Yes definitely
  
• That's more or less how I'd imagine it. I'd keep the turf off camera visible, but hide mobs and items and what not while tinting it darker so you can tell the difference between what's on camera and what isn't
  

1. Bot possession: AI takes direct control of a targeted bot. Some jobs you just gotta do yourself
   
2. Door access whitelist: Can add or remove players to this. Will auto open any door they get near, and close it behind. Never be bothered opening doors again
   
3. The electromagnetic decryptor: Toggles a door or bot from an emagged state to a normal one and vice versa. Has a cooldown
   
4. Hologram: AI can create a holographic duplicate of an item or person that they take control of. Can't interact physically with the world (AI can still control doors and computers to give the illusion the hologram is) and anything that makes physical contact with the hologram causes it to visually "shimmer" giving away the illusion. 
   
5. Grey Goo: The AI releases a swarm of miniature robots (resprited ants). They can be directed like bots, and are capable of physical picking up and object and carrying it safely to another location. The ability has a very long cooldown (10 minutes or so) but the nanobots can duplicate themselves by picking up something organic and consuming it