(09-04-2023, 01:45 PM)Wisemonster Wrote:  On Goon, people usually only need roboticist to replace a failing organ, and occasionally want an organ upgraded just for the upgrade itself. This also ties into roboticist having something to do. 

(09-04-2023, 04:05 PM)Kotlol Wrote: I would love mechsuits too, but...considering how classic works. I fear every robotcist will rush a mechsuit and validhunt OR go antag to do mechsuit rampages on classic. That said...a lot of past suggestions has things like "Robot arms like Doc Ok." would be fun ideas too.

(09-04-2023, 07:57 PM)Dhaidburt Wrote:

(09-04-2023, 04:05 PM)Kotlol Wrote: I would love mechsuits too, but...considering how classic works. I fear every robotcist will rush a mechsuit and validhunt OR go antag to do mechsuit rampages on classic. That said...a lot of past suggestions has things like "Robot arms like Doc Ok." would be fun ideas too.

I'm not familiar with mechsuits on other servers, but honestly there's already a pretty good way to ensure they aren't rushed at roundstart. Same for industrial suits and mechboots, materials that can only be obtained from mining! And if mining is dead or slacking off, you can ask one of your silicon buddies to go out and mine for upgrades for them and mechsuits for you. Win-win I'd say.

(09-06-2023, 03:51 AM)Silent Majority Wrote: Allow specializes sub modules to be created at high cost to give borgs new.utility that require someone to install into their frame
Examples:
Ghost drones cardboard rcd
A repreasurizing augment
Improved mining tools
A built in pill/patch manufacturer using carried fluids
Upgraded fishing rods
Cement dispenser
A built in packet sniffer
A serving tray
A feed grinder.

(09-03-2023, 01:27 PM)Waffleloffle Wrote: roboticist has always felt like a bit of a half-baked role. they're not as well-equipped for medical work as a standard doctor, but they never really have many concrete responsibilities once the AI has a functional shell. they get turned to for cybernetic surgery, sure, but the only thing really making that their job is the fact that the robotics fabricator is behind their door. with the increase of silicon self-sufficiency as of late, roboticists have found themselves with fewer and fewer things to do for the station, which I find to be a massive shame

one could argue that roboticists may simply be doomed to the same fate as mechanics: being folded into a more fleshed-out role at some point due to their lack of unique station tasks. I'd like to find a way to prevent that. I'm a fan of the roboticist role for several reasons - conceptually there's a lot of potential, the uniform's really cool, it's a pretty good Starter Medical role, it's nice to have a role that can keep Human Players and Silicon Players from stratifying into two separate groups, et cetera et cetera. there's a lot to like, on paper. the issue is that, in practice, their niche is very shallow at best

my main question for this thread is: how can we expand the capabilities of roboticists while maintaining synergy with both silicons and the organic members of the station? I think a nice starting point would be giving them a console that gives them a list of every active silicon on-station, along with serial numbers and every name that silicon's been under, and maybe their last recorded location on-station (though this may be a pretty large balance concern). something like this could be useful both in the case of locating emagged/compromised borgs, or reclaiming the parts of one broken by an antag's destruction. either way, let me know what you think and feel free to pitch your own ideas too

(09-08-2023, 04:26 PM)Kotlol Wrote: Borging needs to feel like a via-able alternative rather then: "Oh I am stuck."

There is a reason players like myself do not like borging as much due to the fact we are tied to listening and we cannot be "goofy"

For example: I like playing chaplain... but as a borg, most of my goofy antics would be seen as "disobeying laws" (even though they aren;t)

I tend to see borgs as "You are there to fill in slots"
Also if you are a security main... borging basically makes you feel bad due to brobocop.
Seriously... can we just split it now and make the security borg be slightly more effective but not have weapons?

Anyway... if we want more people to play borg funsies. We need to give the robotcist more ways to customize borgs so when a good robotcist is at the table, happy borgs will be going around.

(09-08-2023, 02:51 PM)KikiMofo Wrote: Yeah what babayetu said. For some reason people feel like you are ruining peoples rounds by borging someone instead of cloning them. Whenever I played roboticist in the past couple years people would just run up and smack you and steal the body or break into robotics to take the corpse back. It's really messed up.