Complaint At least commit to it
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(02-21-2024, 08:56 AM)Bananabits111 Wrote: If you care so little about what players say, you might as well either tell players that what they're doing is wrong and leave them alone, or ban them right away. There was no need to encourage them to lie.
I fail to see how you understand this as UrsulaMajor failing to care. If she didn't care about making sure that this specific person understood the rules and wouldn't break them again, she would have just banned them right away. The person was drawing out the argument because they didn't want to admit that they broke the rules. Emily  (as she said in this thread) was exasperated and asked them why they couldn't even lie and say they were wrong and they wouldn't do it again. You seem really hung up on this, which confuses me. It is pretty blindingly obvious to me (someone who was not involved and is just reading the logs) that the person who was breaking the rules was just upset and thought that if they refused to say they broke the rules, they would not be punished for breaking the rules. In this case, the player lying does not matter at all in the context of the rules. Emily knows they broke the rules. They have been told they broke the rules. They are being asked not to break the rules again.
Asking them to lie in this case is letting them shoot themselves in the foot. If they refuse to say the thing they have been explicitly asked to say, they will be banned.



(02-21-2024, 08:56 AM)Bananabits111 Wrote: You guys are a team. Teams should be unified. At the very least, you should have hard guidelines that you follow for punishments. And I bet that if you showed the guidelines next to the rules in the wiki, there'd be a lot less confusion and complaining.
From our rules page:
Quote:Different admins have different styles. Although we all follow the same general directives, some admins are more or less forgiving on certain issues than others. If you do a thing that gets you a dayban from one admin, and your buddy does the same thing later and gets away with just a talking-to, that is not a thing to complain about. If you DO feel that an admin's actions were inappropriate, please feel absolutely free to make use of the Admin Complaints forum - we won't punish you for posting a complaint.
If we were all unified in opinion and behavior, why should we have a team of staff versus just one automated robot or super staff member who administrates the game?
We are a small team made up of members who were all brought on board because we trusted each and every one. Everybody has differences in personality, which manifests in differences in enforcement and temperament. We make this explicitly clear in our rules. This is a complex social game where people can break the rules in complex ways. There is no structure we could create to automatically doll out punishments that would be more effective than just trusting eachother to make the game a better place.



(02-21-2024, 08:56 AM)Bananabits111 Wrote: Tell that to Ursula
This is a pointless snipe that doesn't deserve an in depth reply.
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Messages In This Thread
At least commit to it - by Bananabits111 - 02-20-2024, 08:33 PM
RE: At least commit to it - by ZeWaka - 02-20-2024, 11:24 PM
RE: At least commit to it - by Bananabits111 - 02-21-2024, 06:03 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by klushy225 - 02-21-2024, 08:07 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Cal - 02-21-2024, 08:24 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by UrsulaMejor - 02-21-2024, 08:33 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Bananabits111 - 02-21-2024, 08:56 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Sov - 02-21-2024, 08:49 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Adhara In Space - 02-21-2024, 10:07 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Bananabits111 - 02-21-2024, 10:18 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by According_tome - 02-21-2024, 10:12 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Adhara In Space - 02-21-2024, 10:48 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Bananabits111 - 02-21-2024, 11:20 AM
RE: At least commit to it - by Adhara In Space - 02-21-2024, 03:09 PM
RE: At least commit to it - by Bananabits111 - 02-21-2024, 03:18 PM

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